In the United States, just 1% of white marriages and 5% of black marriages are interracial. The most common of interracial marriages is between Asian women and white men. So why are there more articles on black/white marriages as opposed to the more common Asian-white marriages? Even with these statistics in our hands, when a study is done on interracial anything, it somehow tends to veer towards black and white.
For instance, in analyzing the plight of mixed race adolescents, some study used data from the National Survey of Adolescent Health (Add Health), which surveys over 90,000 individuals who were in grades 7-12 in the 1994-95 school year. HOWEVER, “304 black-white mixed children” were interviewed. And the whole thing went on to be about black and white completely ignoring the children of Latino-Black, Asian-White and other interracial pairings. And when talking about mixed race individuals racial identity dilemma, we make reference to black-white.
Steve Jones - Professor of Genetics at University College London - argued last year that we will soon observe the complete obliteration of the races: “We are mixing into a global mass, and the future is brown.” Global mass? Brown? He just couldn’t avoid making it a black and white issue now could he? (Or is it I that can’t help but assume that by saying brown, he was making reference to black and white?)
I must admit we interracial bloggers can’t be left out of this one. We kind of behave like any mixed race relationship other than black/white, don’t qualify as interracial. I mean, look at my blog posts. More than 75% of the ones on mixed-race relationships are centered on black and white relationships. And the ones that get the most responses are those on black and white issues.
The other day I stumbled across this on Other Brothers blog:
“… this will be pretty much about white and black people. I know other races date but for some reason minorities dating other minorities doesn’t have the same stigma. So we’ll go with what moves people.”
We focus so much on black and white relationships and issues in general and forget that when it comes to racial issues, other ethnicities have also played a role in making the world what it is today. (And here I am still doing the same thing … blogging “black and white” again. No matter how I twist the topic, I still end up there).
Is black and white so hypnotic that we just can’t help but be drawn to black-white issues? If you agree with Other Brothers above, does this mean that we should ignore other interracial relationships and issues just because black and white ‘moves’ people?
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Comment by homesteader on 10 March 2009:
Yes , I would hope that most of Us at AfroRomance have the desire for change in this otherwise Backward world . In Fact / I will go out on a limb and almost Guarantee that people here Seeking Relationships with people of different Heritage . Most certainly have made some changes in their Lives as to Respecting All others . Ria there is Only one Race and that is the Human Race / get with the Program . What they did in 1994-95 is History now . Personally I would enjoy reading about the Present day or Maybe - Your Ideas for a Brighter Future .
Comment by homesteader on 10 March 2009:
AND IF ; 1 % OF White Marriages and 5 % of Black Marriages are interracial / that would be 6 % Total interracial Marriage between Us .
Comment by wildrusian on 10 March 2009:
Come on… We shouldn’t ignore anything that happens, because it is important to our culture. Anyhow, i believe black/white is so hypnotic because it is still a taboo. And in our society, taboos always get the most attention. In fact, because it happens less often than other interracial r-ships is why we pay so much attention to it. But because we concentrate on black/white couples, we don’t see other ones, and so it begins to seem that black/white happens most often. But the future really may be brown… Because no way will you get a white child from a black/white couple. And mixing of other cultures is also likely to lead to brown or darker outcome. So the future is dark… lol. But that may not be such a bad thing. =)
Comment by Kat on 10 March 2009:
Asian and White are the MOST common IR couples in America but they get nowhere near the attention Black/white couples get. It just goes to show that white and black mixing are still considered taboo because of the history of America.
Comment by homesteader on 11 March 2009:
Blending Red and Yellow will produce Brown , that my dear is written in Black ink on White paper . And I was taught that mixing all colors would make Black , that White was the Absense of color / that was in the 1950’s elementary school . I am sure this was before your time . In Texas where We reside it is always Dark at night , with the exception of the Full moon shining in the Sky . People are not Colors - people are Living Individuals with Feelings . I am Caucasian ; Others of intelligence in my younger years would descibe me as Flesh colored / not white . American Indians were described as Redman and far Eastern people as Yellow - therefore a mixing of these two peoples will bring Brown into the Equation . Alas we still are speaking of a box of Crayola crayons which to use in coloring books . Please try to stay within the lines , Hehe . Imagination is a Great thing , Try ing to Live in the Past times and Constantly repeating the same words / shows Stagnation in your writing Talents . At an Elementary Level . I apoligize if I offend alas at 60 have Grown to see far Better things in a Brighter Light . Reality brings forth Belief . Perhaps you could tell us the number of people in the World that still are of a Pure Heritage .
Comment by M.Elliot on 11 March 2009:
When discussing the interracial dating of Asian American women and white men we must first and foremost be honest in our analysis of such relationship in America. Traditionally in American culture Asian American women have been viewed by an overwhelming majority of White men as sexual objects suitable to fulfill their sexual fantasy with. This in part is due to the overwhelming low amount of self esteem found in the Asian community brought on by their lack of cultural knowledge and history. Many Asian American women idolize White men as being superior and desire to gain acceptance in the white community by attempting to date only White men. White men view their ability to exploit Asian American women for their sexual conquest as their American Birthright. Whereas, Asian women view themselves as dating White men in America, White men view their involvement with Asian women large in part as sexual experimentation. Asian American Women oftentimes date the White men which are not usually desired by most White women and see themselves as having nabbed a great prize. Comparing the interracial dating of Asian American women and White men with other interracial dating experiences in America, no other race is so overtly exploited sexually then that of Asian American women being exploited by White Me. Stories of White American men sexual conquest in Vietnam have led to the overall idea by White men that Asian American women are subservient and will do whatever a White man tells them to gain White approval. A substancial dating relationship is the mutual assent by both parties to enter into agreement to share i the emotional care, welfare, and liabilities of the other partner. The author of the blog is very confused because an overwheling majority of interaction between Asian American women and White men are not substancial dating relationships, but rather the sexual explotation of White Men upon Asian women who misperceive such interactions as meaningful relationships. In essense When White Men need to get laid they go Asian because it is easy and convient.
Comment by party1 on 11 March 2009:
My very first thought without having the stats to prove it would be that the military situations provided the bulk of these relationships.Had the U.S invaded or occupied a predominate black country the numbers would reflect that.So the relations could have been born on foreign soils.A black/white relation is more likely born on U.S. soil thus being closer to home and gaining more notice.In the coming years and less military actions in asian countries my guess is that the numbers would rise in the black/white relationships at a faster rate.
Comment by lickem@aol.com on 12 March 2009:
So M Eliot since you date white women. Are you sexually expoiting them as well? After reading your blog concerning asians and whites. You are one racist son of a bitch!
Comment by beauty08 on 12 March 2009:
I think black/white produces the best results ever!..the good example is OUR PREZ OBAMA!!! GOBAMA!!!
Comment by Glock on 12 March 2009:
lickem, I guess it’s just that racist, opportunistic, whiteness in us that just makes us want to uh-huh…”exploit” women.
As you know, we white men never involve ourselves with any woman of another race unless it has to do with sex.
M.Elliot, thanks for the comic relief. It definately is one of the funnier posts I’ve ever read. Keep up the good work!
Comment by ethereal99 on 12 March 2009:
Q: So why are there more articles on black/white marriages as opposed to the more common Asian-white marriages?
I think Asian-white relationships are viewed as less shocking to those not involved in interracial relationships. They are also more low-key in their relationships, I don’t mean any of this to be seen as good or bad, it’s just my perception.
Comment by homesteader on 12 March 2009:
When talking of Asian American women and Caucasian American men . Yes these are Citizens of the United States of America / The last time I heard they both are born with Freedom of Choice . What’s your Point ? I feel that Blessed by birth , I have never felt the need to Exploit Anyone . Insecurity in ones own Ability to make a Ladie Smile is not my problem . Seems to Belong to people - Who judge others’ Relationships . Without the Intimate Knowledge in others’ everyday Happy Lifes Together . It is not my Fault Asian American women do not Date indiscriminately . As they have Taste for the Finer Things in Life . CAN’T YOU SEE.
Comment by biggeesmoove on 12 March 2009:
I believe it’s simpler than most think. We live in a society that judges people based on their skin color, not their heritage/culture; White is considered to be superior than other colors.
Viewed in that light, White/Yellow skintones are closer together than Black/White skintones, thereby eliciting fewer stares and responses. Also consider that Whites have always held the position of social/financial dominance in this country (White men in particular), and you can see how something so offensive to them (black men with their white women) would stay in the media (which they own), and continue to be such an irritant socially. Add to that the mentality of an offended white man, who considers himself superior to any black man: “How could she prefer HIM over ME?”
Now, I will be quick to point out that I don’t suggest that all white men feel this way; in fact, I KNOW it isn’t the case. But, in acknowledging that, it also can’t be ignored that there ARE white men that DO feel that way.
Comment by homesteader on 12 March 2009:
As many Negro American servicemen that served Our country in Vietnam , The only question I have for You M.Elliot is do you Imagine that they all Remained Celebate , during their tours of Duty in Vietnam ? or did they Exploit the Ladies of the evening while they were there ?
Comment by homesteader on 12 March 2009:
What remains Offensive to me is being called a White man by people who claim to have Intelligence / I am an American Citizen who is Caucasian bye Heritage . The America Indian called is White men in the movies . Grow-up I have .
Comment by homesteader on 12 March 2009:
P.S. The A-SHIRT that I wear in my picture is white , do not you see the difference in my skin color or are you Blind ?
Comment by alani on 13 March 2009:
lol, much of this conversation has become very comical. Many of the comments were filled with interesting concepts. I do agree that the “White Man” exploiting Asian women is a bunch of…well crap.
The only undertones that came from it was that more black men would get more dates with Asian women if it weren’t for those white men. Preference is simply preference. There’s no difference in someone deciding that I’m not their type because I’m not built like a model. There’s no shame in that for me or the other party because chances are I wouldn’t give that person the time of day because there is something in them I don’t find appealing.
My father was in the military and messing around in Korea and Germany. I know for a fact that he got someone of Asian decent pregnant in addition to a German woman. It wasn’t because he was black and wanted to exploit women of other races. It was because he couldn’t keep it in his pants.
In regards to the topic in question, we still live in a very prejudice world and because of that, there are still ignorant people out there who rejoice in exploiting the ignorance of others for profit.
When one dummy stares at something that doesn’t compute in their “normal” day to day and makes a big deal out of it with his or her peers, the media goes wild and thinks of ways to cash in. Unfortunately, prejudice is a ever flowing cash pot. This ultimately is the bottom line.
Comment by homesteader on 13 March 2009:
Life is not a Color , nor is it Money . All New Automobiles soon enough turn to Antique with time . People regardless of Age or where they were born / All Desire to be Happy everyday of their Lives . One day at a time . Your Daddy was a Man under constant threat of Death from the Enemy , Sexual energy releaves Stress when it is available . Never-the-less , He was still your Father and he Loved you because you are his Daughter . Prejudice is indeed a Large part of everyday Life . Preference is in each thought of our daily lives / When you reach for a Cabbage in the cooler at the grocery store . Do you pick the Green or do you pick the Red one . We believe in choosing each at different times because the Flavor is a little bit different . Then my biggest choice is whether to get the extra sharp or the mild cheese . One dummy does not a World make , it takes a Bunch of Us and what We see as ” NORMAL ” probally doesn ‘t even happen to you because of where you Live. Date Ting others would Largely Depend on how one carries themselves , the way they make you feel comfortable to be with them and the Honesty of their approach - When they say ” Madam , May I have the Honor of your company for this next Dance ? “
Comment by homesteader on 13 March 2009:
When we come to Date / Mate for Life . What difference does the Cover make as we must read the Whole book to find that which the Author thought was a Fitting Ending . One day at a Time and We all need to Grow toward the Future with Respect to Each and everyone . Throw those Blinders in the corner and Feel Life in all it’s Glory . As there are so Many choices to make , choose Wisely and Smile .
Comment by Luci on 13 March 2009:
M. Elliot—I think your comments are the most racist I have heard in a very long time. I think you ignorance is speaking for you—you have no clue and I have very good Asian American Women friends, specifically Vietnamese and they are the most caring and loving American and they are in mixed relationships and it has NOTHING to do with what you say. It is based on love and trust and honor and family and committment - NOT what you say. You need to get a clue and you need to educate yourself on other cultures, before you make ignorant comments.
Comment by Luci on 13 March 2009:
This is a comment for M. Elliot from a wonderful, beautiful, smart and talented and just the most amazing Asian Woman I know:
I read the comments made by M. Elliot, and I am completely insulted and aggravated. Obviously, this man is extremely ignorant and close-minded. I am a Vietnamese woman who is educated and independent and while being all of that, I am also married to a white man. Now, contrary to M. Elliot’s belief, I married my husband b/c I love him and not b/c I wanted acceptance in the white community. My husband married me b/c he loves me, and not b/c he believed that I would be “subservient”. I am successful, independent, and educated, my husband wanted a partner, not an obedient, little Asian wife to boss around. The women that M. Elliot has described in his comment refer to only some of the women back in the time of the Vietnam War. If he hasn’t realized, we are currently in 2009, and things change. Also, the term Asian American women, refers to women who were born within the United States, therefore, a lot of those women are educated and go on to become doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc. and they do not merely want acceptance from the white community by hoping to “marry a white man that none of the white women want”. And the Asian women that aren’t born in the United States learn to be independent, take care of themselves and their families. All in all, Asian women are survivors, as are all women of any race, and an ignorant person like M. Elliot is the reason that women sometimes have trouble escaping the stereo-types put out there. He should not comment on what he knows nothing about!
Comment by homesteader on 13 March 2009:
Shakaa , I do not understand all of what you have said . Most of the things I understand and totally agree . I do not worry about the Gene Pool after my life is over , I will allow the younger people to deal with that . In my 60 years of living , I have seen many possitive changes and realize there are many more to come . Regardless of Race , Creed and Color . PEOPLE RULE THE LARGEST PARTS OF THEIR OWN LIVES by the way they commit themselves bye their actions . Life for me was never easy being born poor , Alas instead of complaining about things that I had no control over - I got up off my Bottom and made Life Happen for me first by Washing other peoples dirty dishes , Washing their dirty cars when I had to walk to work because my junk would not start . I Learned to deliver freight and communicate with others no matter how different we were , as we all do the same things / Daily . Sleep , EAT drink and use restrooms . Men of all colors when they go against society are Persecuted either correctly or incorrectly . To Blame others for Lifes Happenings if one does not try to improve on his or her own . Would be my Largest complaint , as a whole / we all shall Reap what we Sow - if you don’t plant it sure will not Grow .
Comment by M.Elliot on 13 March 2009:
Dear Luci,
Recently, the United States drafted and placed before the United Nations a yearly brief on China. Within this brief the United States touched on Chinas economy, military, agriculture, schooling and most importantly China’s constant breach of human rights violations. China in return responded to the United Status’s yearly draft with their own yearly draft brief on the United States. In China’s draft they responded to the United States accusations regarding Human rights violations by pointing out that the United States turns a blind eyes to the exploitation of Asian women by European American men. China went on to identify massage parlors (happy endings), Tila Tequilla, Several New Documentaries of Asian porn and sex rings from reputable major news broadcast stations. China even went as far in this 3000 page document to comment on American sitcoms in which European American men would make reference to their, “Asian Porn Stash”. China (A superpower government) themselves condemned the degrading and exploitative images of Asian women propagated by European American men. China asserts in their report that Asian American women as chasing behind European American men trying to gain acceptance. China asserts that Asian history is not taught in America schools. The lack of Asian history has caused an overwhelming majority of Asian American women to feel that because they have no history they should embrace and accept European History as theirs own. If the government of over 1 billion peoples views Asian American women in such a light and they are Asian then we must sit up and investigate.
I am sorry if my analysis of the issue in any way offended anyone. I know that oftentimes being truthful about an ongoing stereotypical image projected of a certain group of people is sometimes hurtful. Stereotypical images are immutable characteristic which we as all people share equally. For instance when their is a mention of a drug dealer in America the first image which comes to the minds of an overwhelming majority of Americans is an American of African descent (when in all actuality drugs were injected into the low income neighborhoods by Italian, Irish and many other mafia gangs possessing planes, boats, and International connections to transport drugs overseas thus making those groups drug dealers to)(Furthermore, the meth. capitols of the United States are located in the Midwest which are not heavily populated with African Americas) . Equally, when talking about a serial killer in America the first stereotypical image which comes to mind is A White middle aged educated male (per FBI profiling)(when in all actuality America recently watched in terror as 1 man and his adopted son both Americans of African descent engaged on a shooting spree across in Northeast America disproving that serial killers are only white men). When speaking of migrant workers in America the first stereotypical image which comes to mind is people of Mexican descent (when in all actuality (African Americans in rural areas have always and still do continue to participate in migrant work to earn a living). When speaking of 7-11 stores or conveyance stores, cleaners, ect…the first images that right come to mind is Indian peoples. Unfortunately when speaking of terrorist in America the first images that comes to mind if people of middle Eastern descent (when in all actuality the IRA of Ireland had been and still to some degree is still carrying out terrorist bombing campaigns at a rate equal to that of Muslim terrorist and lets not forget Tim Mcveigh and the Oklahoma city bombings). Lastly, when speaking of mathematicians people oftentimes think Asian (although many of the great mathematicians also come from Europe, India, and Italy, Africa ect… As a practitioner of international law and having traveled to every continent I would never give analysis of an issue without pulling on the works of other highly regarded scholars of the particular topic of culture, treaties, and resolutions by the United Nations, International Court of Justice and the International Criminal Court. In each of these aforementioned sources I have named exist bodies of treaties and resolutions condemning the rape and exploitation Asian women by foreign forces. In order for there to be a condemning of some activity by the aforementioned sources the exploitation must not be relegated to a small act but it must occur on such a large scale as to shock the conscious of those sharing such a common humanity for the well being other others. At that precise moment does the steady hand the United Nations moves to rectify the wrongs of those who have had crimes against humanity committed upon them. You have asked me to educate myself in such matters, however; I already have and would like to suggest some reading material for you to digest written by women of Asian descent who are historians and Asian studies psychologist who have dedicated their lives to trying to improve the condition of Asian American women and views of Asian American Women. These Asian American women and men have begin to breach topics of over assimilation by Asian American Women (in essence changing culture to become ore acceptable to European Americans, completely cutting ties with your Asian heritage and having no knowledge of their history, Plastic surgery to look more European American. Many of these Authors deal with what is popularly referred to in racial psychology as a racial self hate complex. This was coined shortly after WWII when many people of Jewish descent sharing a common grief for the atrocities that occurred during the holocaust begin to wish they were never born Jewish and psychologically attempted to separate themselves from their unique Jewish culture in hopes of becoming more acceptable to European and European Americans. This self hate complex has occurred all over the world and does not just exist in the Asian Community but has existed over he course of time in all racial communities. For example, Liberia has been at civil war large groups of African American freed slaves began shortly after freed slaves began arriving in Liberia called themselves the white ruling class thus seeking to subjugate the local tribes of Liberia to indentured servitude. The wars of Liberia today still wages on with the ruling class- descendents of ex-America slaves still referring to themselves as white. The local population of Liberian tribal women see the ex-slaves as being superior and because their skin is bit lighter an their facial features are different (a product of slave masters and overseer’s late night visits to the slave quarters women). Furthermore, the tribal women see these descendants of slavery as in power and therefore seek to cut their tribal ties in an effort to gain acceptance. In the year 711 A.D. a group of soldiers from the Berber African Tribe invaded Spain and occupied Spain until they were finally overthrown by a joint military mission of Britain, France, and Spain in 1492. While the Africans were occupying Spain they built mask, set up banks, trade, ect… and exploited the Women of Spain thus producing a many children. These Moors also took several Spanish wives at one time which allowed them to produce many babies. Before the occupation of Spain by the Moors the people of Spain were not distinguishable from those of France, however, after the Moors were defeated in 1492 they left behind a legacy of African features in the people of Spain. Moving on to present day times China is in the process of colonizing Africa economically. The Chinese government is only sending Asian men to Africa countries to work and these African men are producing children with the local populations at an alarming rate. These children are referred to in Africa as Losotos. The African women who once viewed the European men as desirable during colonization now have latched onto Asian men. These African women seek to gain acceptance into the Chinese culture and make every attempt in these regions to alienate themselves from their culture in hopes of being with a Asian man. I could go on forever and ever from Rome occupation of North Africa to the occupation of Rwanda by Europeans before WWI which created a class system between the local populations eventually leading to the tragic genocide years later or the Hati dictator Poppa Doc era in which the Poppa Doc clearly effected by the self hate race complex referred to himself as being 100% White with no African descent (although his skin color and facial features resembled that of Tribal Africans. I could go on an break down the British and Irish or Scotland, or I could talk Bosnia, Croatia Serbia, and Montenegro and the effects of self hate complex upon the women of Croatia who often denied the ethnic roots based on the self hate complex caused by the need to assimilate. Or we could talk the effect of self hate complexes upon the people of Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots women and men only making 10% of the Cyprus population as opposed the 90% Greek Cypriots. These Turkish women rejected their Turkish roots in an effort to assimilate and be acceptable to Greek Cypriots thus causing self hate complex among Turkish Cypriot women. Or we could talk Pol pot regime in which the Kymer Rouge grouped peoples according to ethnic tribes this forming a cast system. Such grouping still long after the genocide was ceased still has affected the way the women of that region in the lower cast system view themselves and what means they go through to seek the men and assimilate into the higher cast system.
Which creates a self hate complex among he women. The evidence the documentation the thousands of interviews by U.N. recovery psychologist and redevelopment teams point to the direction that every race or culture at some point in time has suffered from a self hate complex. Just as many groups in America have. Italian, Irish, Scottish, and Russians women back during the great immigration were treated as second class citizens by British Americans. Italians, Irish, Scottish, Russians ect… were forced to live in Slum neighborhoods (ghettos) and work menial jobs in factories for less pay as their British American counterparts. Historical records detail that brothels were established in these neighborhoods and British American men would after a days work visit the brothels to engage in sex with these Non-British American women (As depicted in the historical book and movie gangs of New York along with several other historical books and records of the great immigration and Ellis island). Therefore, European women who were non-British sought to be accepted into British America by means of assimilation which meant oftentimes becoming the mistress of a British American man, having his children, or chasing behind and attempting to marry and British American man in hopes of being acceptable to the status quo of the ruling society. Lastly, post slavery and during the Jim Crow era many African American women and still to present day many African Americans also still seek acceptance from the European American community and carry with them a self hate complex which relegates them to the thinking that Black is evil or bad and white is perfect, clean, and pure. However, African Americans have long battled such ideas from cast upon them by the inhumane treatment, rape, and brutalization caused by slavery. The United States Supreme Court used the now famous baby doll test to overrule segregation in the famous Supreme Court Case Brown v. Board of Education in which black children were asked a series of questions and told to pick which doll fits each description. All of the black children picked the black doll when asked negative question and the white doll when asked positive question. (several books have also been written about this self hate complex regarding African Americans by many well noted white and black scholars). Statistics show there is a fear among African Americans that assimilation will cause a loss of cultural identity and history and perhaps a relapse back into slavery. Therefore, African Americans at large are tackling the issue of assimilating without “selling out” and losing their cultural identity. This is why African Americans oftentimes reject such things as school or and Eurocentric standard forced upon them . African American women oftentimes date drug dealers and the men get involved in a life of crime as one of the ways of rejecting Ethnocentricity. (again several education scholars have written on this issue in America which to this day assert that over 82% of African American women have knowingly dated a man whom sells drugs.) Some African American women seeing the disparate impact have chosen to completely reject anything African American and assimilate into European American culture. Again this acceptance in the European American community to these women is heavily based on their obtainment of a white man. The same can also be found in African American men who oftentimes chase behind white women and reject African American women completely (self hate complex). Many of these men view the obtainment of a white woman as their acceptance into European American. And once again I must return to the Asian community to again through the work of scholars touch back on the stereotypical images of Asian women. Similar in Brown v. Board of Education Asian Americans in California have argued the race hate inferiority complex before The United States Supreme Court and won. In this particular test the Asian lawyer used a series of pictures and asked the Asian children who they looked like and what pictures were pretty and which ones were ugly. The women choose the pictures of white to be pretty an choose the pictures of Asian to be ugly. This test was used to support the fact that Asian students had a right in American public schooling to receive proper teaching in Asian until they learned American because the effect of not having a translator lead to the development of a race self hate complex among Asian women as no so much the men as it is in pretty much every race. Karamatsu v. The United States Supreme Court in which the Executive branch ordered the detainment of all Japanese Americans until the end of WWII also had a disparate impact upon how Asian Americans viewed themselves in America. Many Asian Americans who were not even Japanese were detained simply because they has Asian Ancestry. Studies of these effect by scholars and psychologist have clearly proven that Asian Americans in America after Karamatsu broke sharp ties with their culture and many families fearing it could happen again encouraged their children to not speak or learn anything Asian and then (last but not least mother and father encouraged their daughter to try and if possible marry a nice white man in hopes of being safe from ever being detained again and assimilating). In Mexico and South America there is a common terminology among all people “MEJORAR LA RAZE” which translates to improve the race through injections of white blood over subsequent generations of Latin on European interracial breeding. This kind of thinking is epidemic among all races at some point in time in history and not just limited to one. However, the article was focused on Asian American women. In keeping with good faith and fair play African American Men during WWI exploited the White women of Europe. Many books have been written about the African American soldiers experience in Europe during WWI where for the first time had frequent sexual encounters with European women and impregnated many leaving never to return. Military historical records are also available that in-depth address the issue of White Soldiers becoming frustrated at their inability to meet women while stationed in Europe because he women of Europe seemed only to be into the African American Men. Eventually the African American soldiers were ordered to stay on base and not permitted leave for the remainder of their stay in Europe thus quashing the problem and preventing a race riot by frustrated white soldier. However, as I said before every race of women has been exploited and YES African American Soldiers in WWII did for a brief period exploit European women in London and France. Oddly enough a similar event occurred post the civil war with the African American Buffalo Soldiers stationed in the Midwest. These well armed soldiers stationed in the Midwest oftentimes exploited the Asian women brought in from Asia to work on the railroads of, some European American Women, and a lot of Native American Women.
Now in regards to me being accused of racism and the prior accusation that I only date white women I will say this: First my father is African American and my mother is Jewish (not that it is any of your business). However, to assert that I am racist against European American males is pure ignorance because that would imply that I am racist against myself being that I have European American blood in me which I am clearly not. Secondly, I do not single my dating habits to one particular race, but will date whoever I mentally vibe with. That is why my preference is set to all ethnicities because I would not let something as shallow and small minded as the hue or tone of a persons skin pigmentation determine whether I would or would not date them . “The definition of racism is the inability of a simple minded person to overcome the complexities of difference.” I would urge the women who tried to brand me as something I am at all not (and you know who you are) to stop their simple mindedness and overcome their complexities of difference by setting their profiles to all ethnicities instead of solely one preferred ethnicity you know what I mean). If the logo of Afro-Romance is “Where love is more than skin deep” then surely you cannot justify limiting your choice only to one particular race (you know which race I am referring to). Because to do so would mean you have a “Bias” which is defined as an unfair preference towards one particular race. (you know what race I mean). Such a bias denotes bias treatment which leads to racial preference thus perpetuating the racism wheel into a endless cycle of futility. Therefore, instead of pulling the splinter from my eye, may I suggest my dear ladies that you first remove it from your eyes. For the 2 guys who decided to call me a racist after reading this I hope I have somewhat changed your opinion to initiate an apology for making such a broad remark when not understand the historical context as to my comments.
Now back to the young ladies. I first want to provide by way of assistance into perhaps helping you get your foot into the door of Asian American race and psychology issues a few sources to start with:
The first comes from this actual site Afro Romance entitled
Asian women, stereotypes and hate crimes
Posted by Ria on February 20, 2009
This article explores the sexual tragic criminal act was carried out upon Asian women by 2 men and a woman who had a stereotypical image of Asian woman.
I would also like to direct you and your friend to a great book entitled ‘The First Strange Place by Joanne Meyerowitz . This book centers on the WWII and the exploitation of Asian women by American Service men stationed in Hawaii. The book will take you through military records in which the United Military organized an Asian brothel district for the soldiers to relieve stress. These Asian women were essentially sex slaves who could not leave the brothel area remain in Hawaii if they decided cease prostituting themselves.
Here are some other websites you can take a look at:
Here is a great dissertation written by an Asian American women which was recently published and received national attention. She essentially touches on what I have stated above from an Asian American view point. It is entitles:
Asian women under the shadow of white masculinity: Intimacy, desire, and construction of self in interracial relationship
http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/7/1/9/pages107191/p107191-1.php
Of course I could not leave the fellas out. Here is an Article from a grat Asian American online Magazine called Asiance Magazine. This particular article centers on a White male writing in and telling why he prefers to date Asian women. He does however acknowledge that stereotypes of Asian women by European American men out there.
http://www.asiancemagazine.com/apr_2007/the_white_boy_speaks_on_dating_asian_women
http://www.villagevoice.com/2006-11-07/news/yellow-fever/
I would heavily suggest reaing this wiki it will allow you to see the stereotypes are out there amongst European American Men.
Lastly,
I hope I have given you enough information to help you begin your journey into understand Asian American culture from a psychological and racial vantage point better. As I said before many of these scholars which are Asian American have dedicated their lives to this field of study and I cannot any of who wrote me back in a chastising manner to understand the complex issue being death with in the Asian American women community. There is also another great book being worked on now by an Asian American professor in California who has argued that the Alienation of Asian American women of their Asian American men (the life quest of Asian American women to only date European American Men and not Asian American men has caused resentment in the Asian American male community and many of these men are left without any options for dating partners in America being that other races of women are still not as open to dating Asian men because of negative stereotypes depicting Asian men as boring. I hope this covers everything and if not ask questions nd I would ne more than happy to provide you more information. Oh yeah I forgot to pull the resolutions jus got to the United Nations website an plug in Asian it will take you there.
Until next time,
M.Elliot
Comment by homesteader on 13 March 2009:
M.Elliot , The Ladies that commented on your Generally way of explaining an opinion . Were not abused but married women / who spoke of Reality in their own Lives . History of the world may make you Happy / I see pain and suffering in days of long ago . We live in Todays world and if you look close enough most of these Horrible times are Behind us . I am an American born and raised , Honest in my life and do not believe all things I read . People only tell you that which they wish for you to hear . China last I heard kills their own people in the streets who do not agree with the Gov’t . The United States still is a free country / if you obey the laws . WE , my wife and I are Happy here . If at any time others do not Enjoy the Priviledges of Citizenship , I think that they are welcome to go where they Please . I did not call you Racist - alas any insult made to a Ladie is not Gentlemanly [ even if it is generally speaking . ]
Comment by Shakaa on 13 March 2009:
Luci, I have decided that I am hypotized by it all, All the beautiful women form all ethnic back grounds, and that include you White Women to, you are an Ethnic group like all others.
While I am standing here being hypotized by your beauty, by your hipness, by the curve of your brow, by the way you flip and fling your hair, by the way you smile that bashful smile, you know the one, the one that makes your eyes sparkle when you look at me, And yet I am mystified by it all. Just think, If we all listen to our souls and not the wildings of another who is trying to have all the fun at our expense. the world would be Hot, Hotter than the fourth of July..we would all be lovers, lovers of each other.
I am bold over by that White Woman who thinks of me as exotic, and all the while forgetting that she is an exotic one as well.
I am knowck of my feet by that Asian women that White men seek because of her reputation for being submissive. never understanding the power of surrender and where that power really lies. (in the hads of the one who has surrendered. My soul comes alive when I feel the fire of a Black Woman exploding in the Universe, because it is as it should be when creation is being born, (creation is begining even if the whol world should burn, And the Sun is dying too be born again.) lets not for get her hypnotic smile that drives men wild down in their souls and they know not why. Go out of my ever loving mind when I here a Hispanic Woman say the words Papi, and if it is addressed to me, well, they can just come get me, because my soul is satisfied.. I can’t for the life of me see why any one would not want to experience this. To know others un like your selves is growth, it is magical, real magic..not just smoke and mirrors or mirros and shadows..but life. full of fire, heat, and…..I think I will take my soul out for a stroll.
Comment by homesteader on 13 March 2009:
I think that it is called / First hand Knowledge
Comment by party1 on 13 March 2009:
When somebody makes an addendum to the original question in Ria s blog it goes off in another direction.So in the rebuttals one needs to align themselves with a group that can justify or in some cases save them for their comments.Academics are many times good people as are lawyers,BUT because you call yourself that or hang with that type doesnt mean that you are automatically recognized as that.Sometimes if it talks like a racists and is percieved as a racists then ????? After all that jibberish and hatred thrown at variety of people my interpretation is that you are upset that men of color were denied off base privilages
and you are now a proud and prominant academic that can grandstand and spew hate because you can justify it by history.
Its just my perceprtion,Elliot MAY be a fine gentleman BUT I am not enamored by fancy words and long speeches,its the substance.An apology followed up by more of the same falls on deaf ears.
Comment by VA_SongBird on 13 March 2009:
I think we should broaden our focus and definitions of inter racial couples. There are alot of Ethnic combinations possible. However, in the U.S. because of our history, we still tend to focus specifically on black and white.
It often makes me wonder whether all other interacial couples are deemed acceptable and that it is only black and white that seem to confuse some folks.
Comment by M.Elliot on 13 March 2009:
Gentlemen,
Personal opinion as to the way the world should be as opposed to the way the world is or has been has no role in historical observation of race patterns and perceptions caused and left by Ethnocentricism. To get to the root of a problem you must first open your minds to understanding and not close your mind to the ideals that such issues of racial inferioty complexes among those grups colonized doe snot exist. Hence we must alas seek to have a serious conversation about the issues and not brush them under he rug as done y past generations in America. One of the beauties of the South African peace process post aparteid was the the establishment of th truth and reconcilliation commission. This commission was designed to be an open dialogue between the Africans (native africans), Colored Africans (Indian Africans, and Africans of mixed race), and Afrikaans (Dutch or British Africans. During this process there was an open dialogue about racial stereotypes and how to overcome them. Obama in his histrical speech during his campaign stated, “The reason why America has in many instances not progressed as far a other countries regarding their race relations is because we frankly have not been willing to have an open truthful dialogue about race and the impact it has had on our lives”. I challenge you gentelman to at least take up the tip of the iceberg information I have provided you with and at least read it before automatically assuming with very little basis that racial stereotypes regarding sexuality among among Asian women does not exist. Hence by the simple act of beginning to understand what this information we ove a step close to tackling and solving these issues. As for Shakaa I do agree with you that Lucy is a very beautiful and dynamic woman however, I will remind you that based on your race Luci has automatically eliminated you as a romantic possibility per the specific request to on her profile to only seek a romantic connection with White/European men. If you were born and African American, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, or Middle Eastern, Somoan or any other race I forgot to include you have autoatically been eliminated fro her list of possible choices even though you could possibly be her soul mate. Regarding Homesteader, In y response I was speaking only to those individuals who called e a racist (which does not include you) therefore my comments were not target at you. Party 1 I am appalled that you would comment on my venacular. How then should I speak or rather type sir? Furthermore, sir I did not assert anywhere in my response that idea of hatred as you have taken a illogical leap in logic to do. Might I suggest that you actually read the historical books before making such assumptions. Having an open dialogue means bringing into frution certain things which might sometimes be uncomfortable to admit because of shame and hummiliaion, but that is the first steps to getting past racial issue. Sweeping them under he carpet as if they do not exist only means that they will keep having to be dealt with later. Lastly, Sir I am almost sure you have not read anything I wrote because the only thing you took from he historical analysis was that men of color are upset that they were denied offbase privelages which was never stated in my analysis. NEver did I sttate that the men were upset. Again might I suggest you go back and re-read my analysis to gain a better understanding of it. Gentleman I again look forward to your response after you have read at least some of the information licks posted.
Comment by party1 on 13 March 2009:
Perception is reality to most of us M.Elliott.I have reread your first blog again as you suggested.You have assumed or presumed what a white american male thinks or feels.It was percieved by several other bloggers as a racist viewpoint.You then went off in a second blog and with great passion defended your position with probable facts in history.The apology was lost in the mix..Im jus sayin
If you felt appalled ,,pretty much we know the feeling.Perhaps you felt you were being truthful in your presentation,but it was the truth as you see it.I respect and invite good debate but thru my eyes I feel the pain of Asian women from your words.Please be open minded and understand that you have offended asian women and white men.
Comment by prize55 on 14 March 2009:
History and the truth often are ugly and hard to revisit, especially when many of us are trying to move pass the ugly past and often ugly present.
I’ve taught many diversity classes and in one of them there was a White/Asian couple, married for many years. During the class I brought up interracial relationships. I turned to the husband and asked him how he dealt with social reaction to his marriage. He had this surprised look on his face as if I had just turned on a light. His comment,”I never thought of us as an Interracial couple…I just never did… but I guess we are?!”
His wife, a biracial White/Asian woman responded; “That’s why he never notices the looks we get when we go to certain parts of the country”.
We notice the color difference of Black/White relationships first; in parts of the country any mixed race couple will get noticed.
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
Upon futher investigation , on another Blog Luci states she is married . I in my deepest Hopes , Knowing that History was a time of Terrible Greed and Horrible things happened to all people of this World . Why would anyone feel the need to keep on Reliving in the Ignorant Class system . I was Happy that We as a community of Peace Loving people could move as far forward as we have . As opposed to being Stagnated in the Past . We have made many positive moves toward Respect where it was not given in the Past and Future is what I look forward to Daily in Hopes of Improvement for all peoples as citizens of this Earth .
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
And I am a Caucasian Male , that Loves to tell it as I see it . Not as in a vague testamony of Historical facts to confuse the issues in front of me . In a court of Law all this information /which is used to cover up the Truth of the Debate . We have many books in Our household some fiction some fact . Alas they were all written by Men and Women / Who make mistakes and errors in judgement also . Just Because they are Human beings . We in our Family are Happy with the changes in Attitude , that we have Made . In conclusion ; If you seek to live in the Past / that is your choice - feel free to Enjoy yourself .
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
And though I personally have never dated an Asian Ladie , I still hold the Deepest Respect for them and their Families . If you want to speak as to the opinions of how a WHITE MAN IDEAS are spoken OF OTHER PEOPLEs existance / Feel free to ask Me , as I have the proper Qualifications for the job .
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
How in the Heck , can you speak of anothers Sexual Fantasy anyhows , in our house these are Private Matters / Mind your own Business if you Please - Thank you . These are your thoughts of others sexual fantasy totally unfounded in Fact - being just what you have read . I heard it through the Grapevine -opinionated . Maybe you have watched to many VCR movies of people enjoying Life as they see fit .
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
VA_Songbird , all I can speak about is Knowledge of Personal Facts in Our Lives . We can never know in reality how others feel unless they were to confide in Us Personally . Firsthand , none of this BS like I read it in the Inquirer or other tabloids on the street corner .
Comment by homesteader on 14 March 2009:
I also think that when we speak on topics of Blogs : That we speak to all others included in the Forum .
Comment by jadediamond on 14 March 2009:
VA_Songbird you hit the nail on the head. There are many, many different interracial relationships in the US but the only one that gets people undivided attention is black\white. Therefore, it defintely makes you wonder if the black\white relationship is the only unacceptable one. There are just as many “black” men dating\marrying Asian women as any other race.
Party1…I feel your pain. That is defintely an insult.
I fully agree with homesteader we are all American Citizens and of one race “THE HUMAN RACE” Now when we start dating outside of that race…then it becomes a horse of a different color. lol
Comment by salsera77 on 14 March 2009:
I agree with VA_Songbird and I stated similar in another blog:
It’s really very simple.
This country has a messed up history hence the
magnifying glass on black/white, hence the
hypnotic atmosphere in the US towards interracial relations.
Comment by salsera77 on 14 March 2009:
Sadly, some folks still haven’t evolved in the US even now that it’s 2009.
Comment by homesteader on 15 March 2009:
During his speeches in His campaigns ; Senator Obama was his duty Earned title and Now President Obama when others speak of him in Print . In my eyes , Total Disrespect through the printed word - by any who wish to show a Great amount of intelligence . By rambling on about History of the world on a Dating site , and telling me about - among those grups colonized doe snot exist - should hire an Editor to proof read their argument . I have never claimed to be any more than a Man . Yet , when I speak of Our President Obama , I have the Greatest Respect for the leader of the free world . Luci stated in another Blog that she is married . Puerto Rica was the location mentioned , therefore I think she is eliminated from the open Dating Market because of this Fact . Knowing about History and the World without seeing all that is Happening on our own Front yard . Alas the things Happening Today in our own neighborhood , are what my wife and I will deal with . As we have totally no control over the rest of the World . Politics is where some belong . Poli in Latin ; meaning many and tics ; meaning Blood sucking creatures / that are Parasites in Nature .
Comment by homesteader on 15 March 2009:
P.S. I NEVER COULD SPELL VERY WELL - Being hypnotized by all I have learned about the History of Life in other places that I shall never go / - Puerto Rico - to correct error in prior statement . Me thinking she was Puerto Rican and writing in error , at my age the mind is the first thing to go . To keep with the topic at hand / I shall write in Black print on White paper solely because of the Hypnotic Quality of Our Beautiful Lives together as One .
Comment by homesteader on 15 March 2009:
I apoligize , if I offend anyone . I have my own opinions in Life and can see that I get out of line on Occasion , Myself .
Comment by Glock on 15 March 2009:
If any news source comes from the United Nations (what an Oxymoron) I tune it out.
I will agree with Elliot that open and honest discussions of race are important. However, it’s often difficult to do because at some point, someones will get offended to the point that they will call someone a racist whether it be true or not. I have found this to be the case quite a few times, all resulting from a disccusion about racial issues and experiences etc.
In one of his posts he list several stereotypes that he claims in actuallity are quite different than the stereotype. However, I disagree with some of his claims, because I do believe that there is generally truth in many of the stereotypes. People are usually only offended when the stereotype is of a negative nature, AND their perception of the person accerting the stereotype is saying that it applies to ALL people of that group.
I personally keep an open mind on most things. However there will always be things I am unwilling to budge on, as all people are. I can tell you right now that I will never listen to anything that comes out as a “study” or “report” from the “United Nations”, and to use them as a “source” is, in my opinion, rediculous. Elliot claims that “the steady hand of the United Nation is there to rectify the wrongs…” Exactly what did the United Nations during the Rwanda massacre? After all the “United Nations” WERE THERE! But did nothing to stop it whatsoever. That’s just one example of many countless examples possible to not have any faith in anything the “United Nations” even remotely touches.
Comment by party1 on 15 March 2009:
I was ready to drop this debate and move on,,BUT Mr Glock you have opened the door for another comment.William Holder said “we are a nation of cowards” in regards to this entire debate.At first I was out of my mind that he in his position could say this.After much thought I have open my mind since President Obama agreed and said it shouldve been said in a different form.
Comment by homesteader on 15 March 2009:
As I have read in other Blogs , about good Defence weapons / I feel that a 12 gauge 3″ Magnum Pump is a good close range firearm . I do not know a Billy Holder but if he keeps his Butt outside Our fenceline , I would imagine 00 buckshot will not harm him . Amen
Comment by NOPLAYER on 16 March 2009:
I’ve giving this topic some serious thought and I think one of the reasons the blk/wht relationships get some much attention because they’re still veiwed as TABOO in this country.
Seeing a blk/ wht couple walking down the street has a way of jolting people and forcing them to confront some of their hidden issues.
If you’ve never been trully exposed to IR it makes your wonder, ” how would I feel if my Sussie came home with Jamal” or if you’re a blk woman, ” how would I feel if my ex husband married a wht woman or how would our children responed to her?
Blk/wht relationships when up close, be it a child, close friend or a parent involved forces us to show where we stand on the issue.
The fear of being viewed as small minded or racist if your not for IR as a personal preference or for political reasons causes people to keep quite about their true feelings.
As some have already stated, there’s alot of historical pain between blacks and whites in this country and it’s far from being healed.
It’s a wonder that blacks and whites can find an attraction between eachother looking at all we’ve been through together.
Jews/Germans or Armenians/Turks, have yet to make the strides in dating eachother that blk/wht have in America. Those wounds are fresh and they’re real.
It’s no different with blacks in America but we have dated and married White Americans for a years, what does that say about blk/wht in America.
It says alot !
People on both sides have caught hell from both sides. People have fallen out with their families and some have been dis-owned. People have paid a terrible price for loving someone that others have yet grown to accept.
There’s a strenght and a determination to be happy despite who may not like it. It’s a bold voice stating, ” get used to it because we’re not going no where”!
There’s a freedom that comes from being able to follow your heart.
It’s a showing of maturity and a willingness to think beyond what we may have believed for years and the nerve to go where others have tried to dictate where we should’nt go!
It’s having thick skin and the ability to give back a smile when you’ve been given a look of ” how could you” !
It’s hypnotic because it two people trying to be happy together while leaving other’s alone to live there own lives and find their own happiness.
At the end of the day, “It Is What It Is” !
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
party1 , I know not of this Willie Holder/ as I never met the man . Glock taught me not to fear as an old 12 gauge 3″ MAGNUM PUMP shotgun with 00 Buckshot will clear any problems Inside Our fenceline - with Marvelous Accurateness . Anywhere else ain’t none of my Business as we have Men in the service of our country / who will Gladly Do their Duty to Protect all Americans . Gun control is being able to hit that which you Point at , with Discression for the Rights of Others . President Obama cannot make everyone Happy with his words / as there are way too many different opinions , that he has to Deal with . Alas he will be up for Re-election in 4 years , let us see how good of a Total Showing he makes . We intend to vote in 2012 .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
NOPLAYER , My youngest daughter came to Our house in Febuary . She met her Mother for the First Time , They Hugged each other and said they Loved each other . Our Lifes together are Full of Happiness . We paid Our way and shall answer to No one who shows Disrespect .
Comment by NOPLAYER on 16 March 2009:
Man thats beautiful !
Comment by party1 on 16 March 2009:
Homesteader! If United States Attorney General shows up at your fenceline I am thinkin a 12 gauge shotgun might not be sufficient,,HE GOT PEOPLE.
Just tryin to funny u cool with me!
Comment by party1 on 16 March 2009:
Homesteader! If United States Attorney General William Holder shows up at your fenceline I am thinkin a 12 gauge shotgun might not be sufficient,,HE GOT PEOPLE.
Just tryin to funny u cool with me!
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
inside the fence is Private property , No trespassing signs visiable .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
The sign says No trespassing / call for appt. I did State ” INSIDE the fence .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
Inside was the key word , Our Homestead Private property , No Trespassing signs - Clearly Visable / Handmade even Sheriff told me they were not allowed to cross unless called and invited
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
Key phrases : I know not of this Willie Holder / Inside Our fenceline and with descression for the rights of others . Hehe . Sheriff Deputies came out saw my handmade No Trespassing signs and would not enter themselves . Texas has strict laws for Homesteaders to protect Private property .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
party1 ; To cross my fenceline sign says Call for Appt. Sorry I do not watch television / have no idea who Willie is and you live in Texas so you must know that Homesteaders with a locked Gate have the right to protect property with deadly force if Necessary .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
party1 : don’t they shoot people in Houston , who invade others Properties ? When not invited .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
Don’t watch television , don’t know who this person is or what he does . In Houston when they shoot Home invaders / they get No Billed if I remember correctly . LOL .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
party1 : Your comment states a nation of cowards , I do not watch television , nor do I care to know the people who run our government . I do know that inside Our fenceline is Private Domain . Many people have illegally enter our home in the past before we met and stole from me . Sheriff told me to get a No Trespassing sign and a camera . Meanwhile with no available transportation . I made handmade signs which are Legal . Sheriffs Deputies would not even cross before I invited them inside gate . My neighbors security camera was stoled years ago , so to spend money foolishly to install camera is not an option . If someone wants to visit us , there is also a sign at the Locked Gate to call for Appt. Thieves are my Largest Hatred , alas I made the Mistake of Sheltering them during the Hurricane in 2005 . Once I had invited them in / Sheriff said they could do nothing to help me as it was their word against mine . Times change as I got married and now have a witness .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
As I say , I do not watch television did not know Willie Holder was Attorney General . Do know really care as if he comes to see us . The sign at Gate says call for Appt.
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
Please ask him to call for Appt. as there are too many thieves in these woods .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
do not watch television , did not know Willie Holder was Attorney General . Really do not care as he has no reason to come visit us anyways . If he wants to visit he must call for Appt. first as sign says . Private Property in Texas is not to be invaded bye anyone . LOL / Inside Our fence is Our DOMAIN AS I KEEP TAXES UP TO DATE .
Comment by homesteader on 16 March 2009:
He can do anything he wants outside the Fence , inside the fence he would be welcome by invitation only . CALL FOR APPT. first . The shotgun is only used for Self-defense if Necessary .
Comment by homesteader on 17 March 2009:
The shotgun is meant for solving necessary problems inside the fence . We do not watch television , as it is either Bad news or commercials . I would imagine if the United States Attorney General were to need my Assistance that they would call before arrival . As the climbing over Our fence at night to steal garden tools probably is not his way of Life .
Comment by homesteader on 17 March 2009:
Once a Man becomes Disabled , the Punks terriorists Vandels and Thieves are soon enough Found out bye Name . When I physically unloaded Freight trucks everyday , they Enjoyed the Fact that I only Slapped a person once to get their attension . When they would stand back up they would leave Peacefully . A True Coward is one who Preys on others , because he knows the limits of the Law . The good lord God said ” Thou Shall not Kill ” . On the other hand if you take their mobility , someone else will have to unload their wheelchair outside the Fence before they Crawl through your windows to steal . I Love all people / With the Exception of a Known Thief .Amen
Comment by homesteader on 17 March 2009:
In fact ; First day of Deer season this past year , I was cleaning weeds along outside of Fenceline with Holster on hip - in case of snakes . Game Warden drove up and asked if I had been shooting , then asked to see my pistol . He saw that it had not been discharged alas he said it needed cleaning which he did as We talked . He suggested a shotgun at that time for improved Accuracy . Hehe . I met a New Friend that day , as We both Smiled . If one can cause another to Smile / it is a Good day . People by now should realize the difference in a Date Ting sight is not the color of a person / it is the Way that they ask Nicely . ” Madam , May I have the Pleasure of your Company for this next Dance .”
Comment by lolcat82 on 17 March 2009:
I like @homesteader’s posts; always some witticism or insightful words!
Comment by biggeesmoove on 17 March 2009:
Homesteader - I don’t know if your posts right after my initial comment are directed toward me, but if they are, please know that I only refer to “white men/black men” and the like in keeping with the condition I describe in my comment. Like it or not, that IS the status quo in America. My comments don’t MAKE it that way, they just point it out.
I don’t believe in categorizing people by color (I’m in a biCULTURAL marriage myself); I prescribe to people being evaluated by the content of their character. I like to say that “bad” apples come in all colors, shapes and sizes, so I would not intentionally level a “racist” comment against anyone. But, I have to be able to call out what I see, and sought to do it in the least wordy way that I could; that way was to use the terms associated with the very condition I was describing/speaking out against.
If you were insulted by something I wrote, I think it says more about you than it does about me. For instance, if someone describes a thug as a black male, I don’t automatically get offended since there are other qualifiers that go into the equation of “thug” that don’t apply to me. I don’t focus solely on skin color; it appears that you did. If my perception of your response is off, I’m open for you to clarify for me.
Comment by homesteader on 18 March 2009:
I have lived a life of travel for hire , ” thug ” would be a slang word . That I know not its idea . The people , I have met who act with Total Disregard for others property and Rights are that of my own Race and color . Believe , I tried everything possible to solve the problems they caused by stealing Priceless Collectables / Antiques ; That were left to me by Grandparents and Parents after their deaths . These people continued to Threaten , Harrass , Terriorize and Vandalize Me for Years because I lived alone . Have you ever came home after grocery shopping and Found the word ” FIRE ” written across your front door inside a Locked Gate ? I feel no degree of Insult for my thoughts , as I speak of things that Actually Happened to Myself . To Make my statements Clear ; If a man insults a woman in any way in the Public Forum - I feel this is Wrong .
Comment by homesteader on 18 March 2009:
Yes , living in a thickly populated area in Houston , with My second wife of 25 years together . We would be awakened by people crawling out our bedroom window in the middle of the night . We Purchased a piece of property in the country ; Moved had two daughters born to us [ in a Safer Atmosphere , Raised them to Respect all others - Yes Sir , Yes Madam , No Sir , No Madam . They are in College at U.T. Austin now seeking Masters Degrees . We sadly moved apart and went Our Seperate ways / uncontested Divorce . Remained friends for years after - that is another story of our Private Lives and Nobodies Business Save our own . Over-population causes problems that Country folk seldom see unless they are glued to the television screen . I Personally have Never met anyone that I had less than Total Respect for / other than thieves who I know bye Name .
Comment by homesteader on 18 March 2009:
When I speak on Topics , My comments are pointed at the General Audience of the Whole of who reads my thoughts around the World . I have had exactly the same problems in Life as all others . Becoming Disabled at a young age , Did not Blame others for my problems / Got off my dead butt and make life happen for me . The way I controled my actions was Always in a Legal Direction , needless to say sometimes I thought differently .
Comment by homesteader on 18 March 2009:
biggee , I do however Believe that a lot of Problems in Life are of ones own Making , God gave us all freedom of choice in our own Minds . How we react to others will Determine how they act toward us . For every action there is an equal and opposite Re-action . I once read .
Comment by chrystel on 19 March 2009:
M ELLIOT,i’m a african woman of cameroon,and i think that you are very closed-minded.in our society black and white is the most visible for the difference of skin color,and the taboo about this two race have an explication in our history.slavery,colonisation,war.but i think that love is not a question of color and if someone are happy with black,asian,white woman or man,what is a problem?we are in 2009 and please,recognize that you had offended white man and asian women. u are in a stone age!!!!!!!!!!!!
excuse my poor english
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
After re-reading , I came across a Question ; Who is it that considers Caucasian Superior to anyone ? Many jobs I have had in my lifetime / I worked seven days a week because of Necessity . Even tractor-trailer cross-country was seven days on and one off due to Federal Regulations on Logbooks . Many men / women of many colors Drove Trucks for a living and We all shared tables in Truckstops to Eat and B.S. TOGETHER [ How fast them trucks will go Hehe ] . That Manure shovel - that I cleaned gutters on a Dairy farm as a teenager before the school bus stopped to take me to school every morning - probably would have fit anyones hand same as mine . And many Student’s Clothes in my High School classes smelled the same Barn Smell as Mine while We attended classes . As I was raised in farm country and Holstein cows are all Black and White .
Comment by biggeesmoove on 19 March 2009:
Homesteader, do the terms “skinhead”, “KKK”, and “Supremacist” ring a bell? Those are examples of people who consider all “white” people (of any heritage) superior to all “black” people (of any heritage). The history of this nation rife with examples and results of this type of thinking. The whole of slavery was built upon this premise.
Again, I’m careful to note that not all “white” Americans feel this way, but there are those who STILL FEEL and ACT THIS WAY. Even today.
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
Yes these are Bigots one and all . Who as far as I am concerned are a Waste of life , Fresh air and time to worry about . You are talking History - as I think the Law enforcement people in the United States of America have pretty much gotten those problems under control by now . If you see one of these groups / Report them to the Proper Athorities . Everyday of your life you shall meet people of lesser intelligence . Tis like the Butthole on another Blog , who called himself Adolf Hitler and I know my Father proudly kicked his Ass in the 1940 s
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
This is 2009 not 1862 and I never did trust people with short hair as I grow mine to make a wig for ” Locks of Love ” and cancer patients who cannot grow their own . Doctors will not allow me to drive a Big truck anymore , but my hair will still grow . So I feel that I still have a Purpose in Life . Get over History and look forward to tommorrow . It did Happen once upon a time . Live for today , look forward to better times ahead .
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
Or in laymans terms / Crawl up out of that hole you have dug yourself into / the world has changed the Grass will always be greener on the other side of the fence , But who cares .
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
We do not tend to worry about the Effluence of Life as the Honey pumper will be here on the third of next month to clean Our septic tank as per appointment . The sign on the back of his Tank truck says ” Your Shit is My Bread n’ Butter ” . As in all jobs , it is dirty . Someone still has to do it .
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
So as not to confuse anyone ; The definition of Plumbling - is to Bring Potable water to a Residence and take Effluence away .
Comment by chap07 on 19 March 2009:
God made all things for His own pleasure, why you are all worrying about this topic Gods word of salvation through His Son Jesus is bringing true change in a persons heart.God is no respector of erson. Its time to open your eyes and see that the book of Revelation is on your door step and the world is soon to come to a one world government and all your freedomes will be gone.Who so ever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Weather you die today or tomorrow if you havent given your heart to the Lord all your opinions are in vain.Jesus said He was the truth the way and the Life no one comes to the Father but by Him.Time to read the Word.
Comment by homesteader on 19 March 2009:
God made the Devil to cover his faults and Jesus Christ for Salvation for our faults . Reality in Life is the people who go to Church on Sunday to pray for Salvation and Sunday evening they are out stealing from others . These are FACTS OF LIFE / as God has given me the chance to see in person . The Bible States to follow in Jesus path - not to harm others all your life and at the End say Jesus save me . Jesus is the word and the way to Salvation / Not the crutch for evil acts many commit daily . Revelation is only one book of the Bible . Have you read Ruth ?
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
The Bible itself was written over 2,000 years ago . By men who never knew of Mass communication . It would be in my eyes , the History of a Few at the Beginning of Time . Please allow me to tell the beginning of time as I see it . Thank you . Chapter 1 verse 1 ; Stanley and Ruth begot , John and his 16 sisters and brothers . He Married Betty / who was begotten from Carrie and Leslie , who had one other son and 4 daughters . verse 2 ; The joining of John and Betty by legal marriage brought forth Leslie and David . verse 3 ; David being barren of children went into the service of his country / to spend 5 years committed to the Safety of the children of the United States of America , working with the United States Air Force and it’s Proud brothers and sisters from many walks of life . verse 4 ; Leslie being Declared Dead at the scene of an auto accident at an early age / went on to marry Donna who was begotten from the joining in marriage of Albert and Freida , who also begot Susan . verse 5 ; Leslie and Donna begot Janet who begot Erik ….to be continued … chapo7… is this not the start of a new chapter / in similiar form as to how the Bible is written ?
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
chap07 , God inspired me this morning to add a revised Chapter to the book that has sit dormant for many years . Joseph Smith ; wrote The Book of Mormon abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites . Have you read that ? It is a revised edition written at a Later date / As God gave us all the Knowledge to use to spread the word of Life as we see it unfolding before us . Life my friend did not stop when the early written Bible verses did .
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
A Christian is given the job to go spread the word of Life , alas Life has taken on many Chapters since the original Book was written . Would God want us to forget all he has done for his own Pleasure in our days of Life ? God has shown me how he has given forth Freedoms to many others - who really were always equal in God’s mind as the Devil in people caused all this pain for so many thousands of years . / God works in many ways - Be it slowly as he has so much more to do . Alas the writting of the Book will require scholars of our time . to resume the Teachings of Ages . Amen
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
erson ? Weather [ whether ] I die today or tomorrow . Will be of Gods choosing . As I have been at the beginning of the path to the Gates of Heaven / Twice so far in my Life . Alas because of the written word of Revelation - I do intend to Quit , as there Remain many chapters left to write . Send your money to God here is my address . As Jimmy Swagert already paid his New Orleans entertainment Dues . Hehe .
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
chap07 , you are awfully Vague in your comment / need to proof read . Please tell me more as I call upon you as a teacher of the word . Thank you .
Comment by homesteader on 20 March 2009:
” What Me Worry ? ” God has allowed me many Pleasures also . I looked out on Our doorstep and there was no book of Revelation in sight this morning . The weather is balmy , warm and partly sunny . Of course / my day stared at 4:00 A.M. , WHEN YOU FINIALLY AWAKE - You read the word as We have many other things to do this day besides re-reading the same Book that We have read for Years . Life has abundant time and Plentiful chores to do ; it is also a sin to Waste time just repeating sitting in a corner reading a book . Get out and make a difference in the World of Today . God in his Grace , has taught me to do Many things . If you gather time later , our lawnmower is broken and the Grass needs cutting / I will walk beside you and listen to what you know of the word as long as I do not have to turn the Pages for You .
Comment by chap07 on 20 March 2009:
the problem with people is if the have to admit that Jesus is who they said he was then people would have to repent. there is so much evidence through the prophecy of Gods word that prove Who Jesus was.that its amazing that people are blind. But that again just proves the word of God that people are blind to the truth. Jesus said the truth will set you free.when you actuallt go through church history you will find that the Holy bible is the only writings that were inspired By the Holy Spirit. Everything else is by man and that is why man cant figure anything out about how to solve whAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD TODAY. But Gods word has the answer and Jesus will set up his Kingdom.Hey you dont have to give yoyr heart to the Lord He isnt forcing you but you will find out one day you should have then that day will be to late.
your a sinner believe it or not and Jesus is your only way back.
Comment by chap07 on 20 March 2009:
who Jesus said He was, Not who they said he was
, forgive me for the typing error. I dont understand how people can say they believe in God without using the scripyure to back up what they talk about. that is why eveything about balck and white is in vain because God made all things so dont you think he will take care of it,but we say we beleive but there is no evidence we believe so people go on talkiing about things that will never change until God sets up his kingdom. Its amazing isnt it that people think that the word of God was wroten by man thousands of years ago but its being fullfilled right before your very eyes and you cant see it because when you read you dont ask God to show you truth.Simple
Comment by homesteader on 21 March 2009:
We came here to marry / We were sucessful . I do not really , need any laymans’ simple doctorine . Of the word of God , Our grass still needs cutting and I will be more than Happy to walk beside you as you tell me Scripture . Alas you cannot even spell properly , I do not imagine that you could fully tell me the complete writen word / without reading it to me from the Book - And I am able to Read myself . I asked if you had read ; Ruth and you could not Respond . When you can show me what Jesus - himself wrote , not men who say they heard . I have walked with God for over 60 years and you cannot even spell at an elementary level , go get a job . Until you are able to Quote Chapter Line and Verse by memory , Please do not Bother Us with Half Truths . I can readily see that you are not capable of understanding in order to Teach / You must have more knowledge than your Student / With the Limited Knowledge You Show Us . Get a Job Grow -up , we already have enough people with Tincups on Our street corners .
Comment by homesteader on 21 March 2009:
When you start your comment / with ” The problem with people ” , You are already showing Judhement and I do remember , God stated that was his power in the end . For Us not to Attempt it . chap07 , you have already broken Gods ‘ Law in print . Go sit in the corner and ask forgiveness from him . As you are a Total Waste of me Time with Your VAGUE STATEMENTS . Bond Les Bond 009 . Get a Life
Comment by vanillachai on 21 March 2009:
M. Elliott…holla at your girl :)! I can appreciate an educated, well spoken man. Your background is obvious, but unfortunately most of your writing here falls on deaf ears.
Comment by homesteader on 21 March 2009:
I washed the dinner dishes today and you didn’t see that . Don’t Run your mouth telling me what I do not see . As your ignorance is showing . We Know the Truth / Please do not Talk to me of what you do not see . Thank you . ALMA 12/4 And thou seest that we know that thy plan was a very “subtle plan . as to the subtlety of the Devil, for to lie and to deceive this people that thou mightest set them against us , to revile us and to cast us out . This is Taken from Gods’ word in The Book of MORMON / Another Testament of Jesus Christ .
Comment by homesteader on 21 March 2009:
I see another Successful growth in the Making , May all your days be Happy .
Comment by homesteader on 21 March 2009:
chap07 : Change has occured as far as My wife and I . Between our conversations , it Looks to me as Another change is Taking Place . This Being in contradiction to your thoughts and more inline with My previous use of Scripture , Believe . As you have Stated Totally Nothing in your written words here , with the Exception of Poorly spelled Personal opinions .
Comment by chap07 on 21 March 2009:
sorry homesteader. i didnt realize i had to be a leagal secretary to make my comments. But it kind of shows that you have anger issues when you comment like you do and you have to say it so many times over.If you wanted scripture then we would just get into debate and that goes nowhere.From what i understand of Mormon they do not believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father and that he was just a good man, if that is true than how can you say he is a good man when he himself said He came from the father and said to the Pharisees that when he answered their question weather he was the son of God, and he said I am.That good man than would be a liar and no liar will be in the Kingdom of God. See when a child is conceived the child gets the blood from the father thats what makes Jesus the son of God and equall with God for the Holy Spirit over shadowed Mary and conceived a child. He has God the Fathers blood in him that is why by His blood we are healed and saved as is Acts 2:38 repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin (remission means removal) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. It sounds like you are hurt and that is why you are on this black and white topic, but God dont see black and white all He sees is his love for His creation and set a road for them to get back to Him by using his son Jesus.You know what is really great about the name of Jesus, that the Fathers name is Jesus the Holy Spirit’s name is Jesus and Jesus name is Jesus.John 14:26,John5:43, thats why Jesus name is so awsome in Matthew 28:19 when it says name refering to one name singular not names plural,and in acts 2:21 name there is singular meaning one name,and to sum it all up Phillippians 2:10-11. I left it for you to look it up. People who do read these comments I hope if you say that when you beleive in something you check out the evidence instead of just listing to what peopel say, the fact is we wouldnt even no there was a god if it wasnt for the Holy Bible.So check out all the sources if your struggling with what truth is.If you seek you will find and knock and the door will be opened.homesteader im sure your a great guy and commpasionate about the things you believe in but its also ok to let people speak without getting verbal bashing for their comments. Your right im not the best speller but i hope i did better this time. As im sure you will have the last comment. God bless and take care. Chap07
Comment by bighoss101 on 22 March 2009:
Wow - was just readin over all these comments posted, pretty deep stuff. My reason is simple, I just like black women
Comment by Keiwei on 23 March 2009:
The question is: So why are there more articles on black/white marriages as opposed to the more common Asian-white marriages?
The answer, IMO, is: Because I do not feel that the media differeniate these two groups as much as it does the black/white combo. To the mass media, I feel that they see the Asian as being more of an “exotic white” than another race all together. It’s like that with the hispanic/white combo as well. They didn’t consider Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez as an interracial couple. The black/white couple is just more noticeable, and really despite how far it all has seem to come, still taboo by many standards. Asian/white coupling is just more acceptable. I notice it when I see it, not that I’m bothered by it at all, but I just like to watch other people’s reaction to different situations…I’m an observer. And when I observe people observing people, no one is the wiser when it comes to asian/caucasian couples. Now, black/white definitely…however, it’s the black girl/white guy couples that draw the most stares. Black guy/white girl is just about played out where I live. It’s rampant. You almost see more bm/ww than bm/bw, lol; and I’ve only seen ONE asian guy/black girl couple in all my years of living here. They were a young couple…high school. They were walking around the cineplex holding holds. It was sweet, but I did catch myself staring a bit. It was like a mythical animal that you had heard about only in books–like a unicorn. They were my Uni-couple…lol.
Comment by homesteader on 23 March 2009:
Visability
Comment by homesteader on 23 March 2009:
Love sees no Color , Contrast STANDS OUT more . I have seen Mixed Couples My whole Life , Never really paid it much special attension. There are two kinds of people in this World / Female and Man . Look around you everyday . ” Madam your Bluejeans sure are Pretty “
Comment by homesteader on 23 March 2009:
Occasionally We see Mixed Couples In Texas more often Spanish , Asian , Indian and a few similiar to Us - Computer Mates - This is the second Millenium , in the First it was Mail order Brides inter-racial or Mixed if you think it Sounds Different to say . When we look We see People . Pretty people All .
Comment by homesteader on 23 March 2009:
oh my poor heart , Jennifer Lopez has been Taken by Ben Affleck . Well I only fall in Love with one or two stars per Movie . Kind of a Natural thing for a DayDream Believer , Hehe
Comment by biggeesmoove on 25 March 2009:
This thread contains some interesting posts, but as a whole, I don’t think it answers the initial question of “Is Black and White so hypnotic that we can’t help but be drawn to Black and White issues”?
Maybe the question itself leaves so much room for interpretation that a wide variety of responses should have been anticipated. It could be that as the responses were added, read, then responded to, the focus changed with each reader’s perception of the post they’d just read, versus their understanding of the original question. Maybe the answer is a mystery that’s just far beyond the finite understanding of Man (just kidding here).
Whatever the reason, most of the posts here don’t attempt to answer the initial question; most of them (even one of mine) attempt to answer some aspect of another person’s post that only relates to the question in a periphery, more personal way. I only see where a few of us have addressed the question head-on. Yes, it’s a “Black and White” issue, but the question is more specific than that. Just talking about “Black and White” in our own realms of experience doesn’t quite do the question justice. I thought we’d get more answers on a “global” level, versus a personal one. I do note that an answer on a “global” level stands to not address the more intricate experiences that we as individuals have, but it would be appropriate for the question, since the question itself is one that begs a “global” answer.
Comment by homesteader on 25 March 2009:
biggee : I am only able to speak of that which , I Believe are Our opinions on that which We see unfolding in life in Our own ” Neck of the Woods . ” The question was ; So why are there more articles on Black/White marriages as opposed to the more common Asian/White marriages . The answer would be ; Because that is all that writers in the Media choose to write about , in their articles . There are many Mixed Relationships here in East Texas - Alas most found their mates in places other than online at AfroRomance .
Comment by homesteader on 25 March 2009:
Too many different questions - Toss a coin / I picked the one that I wanted to answer . I married a Ladie , I found at AfroRomance she is Brown not Black and I am Flesh not White , She refers to herself as Other and only God knows the secrets of my Heritage . With any luck at all will never see the rest of the World / other than on the Media . Plenty Happy in Texas , seen 48 States and Ontario , Canada in my Lifetime . All expenses paid . Actually , I counted 9 question marks at the top of the page .
Comment by homesteader on 25 March 2009:
chap07 ; I stutter a lot and Afro is a Dating site where I met my wife . Not a Religious Blog where I feel I have to Listen to where I shall go upon my demise . I was Baptized in 1948 thereby saving me from sin , and have seen the Greed in Our Local church with my own eyes , Religion is the Opiate of the masses I have read . Jesus Christ in his own time , was crucified because he was a Subverter to the Word of Law of the Power in his time . His duty as given by God is to get you through the gates of Heaven when your soul leaves your body of Flesh and Bone . Meanwhile there are many Responsibilities in Life one must endure . Genesis chapter 2 verse 25 ; And they were both naked , the man and his wife and were not ashamed . You have forgotten John 3/16 . Being an American Citizen , freedom of Religion is My Choice and I choose to believe that all Books written were inspired by God . Our lawn still needs cutting / Christian - is that not what God preaches , to help others in need .
Comment by sheriann76 on 25 March 2009:
I’m going to take a chance here and respond to the question directly. The shock value in black/white relationships (in my view) comes from history. Less/a little more than 50 years ago i could not drink from certain fountains let alone share my bed with a white man. As for Asian women/white men relationships, that’s a topic i’m not going to get involved in.
I hope the attention these relations are getting will serve as a reminder, how far we have come and where we’re heading as a human race. Not pigments.
Comment by homesteader on 26 March 2009:
chap07 ; you are correct in anger / my computer would not show what I had printed , so I keep try ing in anger toward a machine that would not co-operate and finally they all came up at once - Religious History Preaching is another of my Dislikes . It Happened over two thousand years ago , it Predicts the End of the World as We know it [ We are not ready to die just yet ] . The World Ends for many people everyday . You can go tell it to the Mountain Nobody knows the Sorrows We have seen , save ourselfs . sheriann76 ; You are so correct in your time range . I was younger then , lived in the country up North and can remember the shotgun houses for the Black farmers families in the onion fields . This was around Chittenango , New York . [ circa 1955 ] I remember fishing Onieda Lake all night Saturday to catch a couple Large Catfish , then Our family would drive by to sell them inorder to collect tithes for the Catholic collection plates on Sunday mornings . The odor of onions very pungent in the air , The Catholic Priest speaking Latin in Mass . First , I would be exhausted from lack of sleep and an Abusive father - who was a slave driver toward me all night long by keeping me awake / do this - do that slapping me up side the head repeatedly [ Me , only an elementary student ] . Then one hour of Silence listening to words that I did not understand while being told to quit fussing - sit still , don’t get your suit dirty . I was just a child , Exspected to act as an Adult [ with lack of sleep ] . Thank you as now I remember why I Dislike Religious Services . Alas I was not at an age to realize how badly others were being treated daily , as all I saw were Happy Families fixing to Enjoy a Fresh Catfish Lunch . My age at that time was the reason that I did not see the injustices happening to Our Neighbors in the fields . I feel sorrow now for the injustices of yesterdays world , yet at the time it Happened did not see it Happening . At the age of 18 was pronounced Dead at the scene of a Massive auto accident and in a Coma 21 days , severly disabled and always had a rough time seeking while employment in order to eat in my younger years as to my Disabilities . I never had time to worry about the Hardships of others as I went to sleep hungry many nights / sometimes sleeping under bridges on cold concrete . Due to the Abusive nature of my own father , we never established a tight family unit . Having grown to Love all peoples that I have meet in my journeys through Life . I was Blind to the problems of a Large part of Our Society .
Comment by homesteader on 26 March 2009:
sheriann76 ; upon further investagation , you being 24 at the present time and stating that 50 years ago you were not able to drink at a fountain . These words are Deceitful . To start in life being Deceitful may be the Canadian way . In the U.S.A. , We call this a Liar and once a Liar always a Liar . You made your choice in a Public Forum , Be Proud .
Comment by biggeesmoove on 30 March 2009:
Sheriann76, you SHOULD be proud of your response. I understand that you are saying you would not have been able to do the things you speak of if you were alive during the time that those things were blatantly taking place. You at least attempted to answer the question that summed up the article.
Comment by BrownGirlLDN on 30 March 2009:
I think the black/white thing is hypnotic because it’s right there in your face. The *extremes* of colour. The ultimate contrast. I don’t know how mixed race relationships are dealt with within other racial cultures so I can only call upon my own personal experiences. I know if a white guy at work comes in and says “yea, I’m really into Japanese girls” then loads of guys will pipe up and join him in their mutual appreciation for Japanese women. If that same guy were to say “I’m really into black women” then everyone, the world and his wife wants to dissect his desire and put their two pennies into the mixture too. I think of all the kinds of IR you get, black/white is the one *everyone* seems to have an opinion.
Ooh and p.s. M.Elliot, you’re a dick.
Comment by homesteader on 3 April 2009:
Oh What fun it is / Us being together . We make our own History everyday . It is Full of Laughter and Smiles . Baagh Humbug to those that cannot see what True Love is . Hypnotic in the Feeling We show for each other . Grow up and stop n’ smell the Roses . Went to town Yesterday and purchased a Newspaper - President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama where on the front page with Great Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Phillip . Both couples Looked Happy . Maybe the rest of Us should Learn from the World in front of Us . To Enjoy everyday to its Fullest . Mine eyes have seen the Glory , Who cares where you were Born / England and the United States were Mortal enemies - Once upon a Time . Now their Leaders DINE Together as Friends . Yes Glock - Our President is named Barack Obama . Get a Life .
Comment by Siolav on 6 April 2009:
Hey, I see that this conversation/debate started by M. Elliot is still going on. Quite a topic!
I think that the differences between black and white is is visually the extreme opposite (excluding other races whose pigment is more of mixtures)and therefor more noticeable. Different ways of thinking are cultural depending upon where you are born. People with different genetic makeup, but born raised and educated in the same culture tend to think and live similarly. People have been mixing for thousands of years. It is nothing new. Only changes in history have changed our viewpoint on race relations. As it has been written, we are all related down the line of ancestry. As for the world becoming beige eventually- rubbish. Personal experience has shown me that Caucasian genes can be stronger than Negroid genes. We will continue to choose a mate based on prefference. If a Black person of mixed race chooses an Asian, the child may look more Asian and if their offspring chooses another Asian the children may look completely Asian. If my son chooses A Caucasian mate, their offspring will look more Caucasian. So it all comes down to genes and chromosomes.
As for me, I appreciate men of all persuasions, but as for personal choice I am attracted more to Caucasian men. I have often questioned why and all answers come down to; I happen to like a particular look that Caucasians have. It has nothiong to do with self hatred. We should all own up to what we are attracted to and hope that a loving relationship comes out of it.
Comment by homesteader on 9 April 2009:
Siolav : One more day and this Woman and Man will celebrate their second Anniversary . AfroRomance helped to make us Happy together .
Comment by kaheesha on 12 April 2009:
Wow! There is so many passionate and some very valid and great comments from various individuals. I read the whole thing, every posting…
I am an Aussie, living in Australia and I can say with complete honesty that I don’t believe there is that much of a drama with mixed relationships here. I have never heard another Aussie use the term “Inter racial couple/relationship”.
I am the youngest child of 4, until 10 years ago my parents were still married. Now my Dad has a girl friend that is my age and another nationality and after reading everyone’s Ooh, interracial comments maybe I should add that she is East African. If my Grandmother was alive now she would be about 105, she would have had a problem… SHe was a another generation entirely and even though she would have struggled at first, as I know the age gap would have been more of a problem to her than she is another nationality. When it come’s down to it, my Dad is happy and that is what is important.
I am too easily side tracked…
Aussie’s are generally not caught up in Ooooh, are they black/white/asian as in who the individual is… I have dated guys with differant skin tones than my own fair skin, some have been tanned, some are of other nationality’s and I have never had a drama with strangers.
My brother told my Mum about 9 years ago that he had travelled half way around the world to fall in love and that she was ‘black’. My Mum told him that she was happy for him and wanted to know all the usual things, “name, age, wanted picture’s and when would she meet her”.
My brother has 2 kids with her now, and my niece and nephew are absolutely beautiful. They call themselve’s biracial, my niece is 7 and will tell people that “I am not black, or white I am half and half.” She, and her brother are not about the colour of their skin, they know there is a difference and it’s only that they don’t need to use fake tan like me if I fancy having some pigment to my skin tone.
If anyone wonders, yes there is mixed relationships here and people do not comment or stare or make it their business. Whether someone is asian, white, black, biracial or anything that you want to throw into the mix it’s not an issue….
At the end of the day only the individual’s are in the actual relationship, so what business is it of anyone else’s. Even if that relationship is noted as a statistic somewhere…
Comment by homesteader on 12 April 2009:
Other than a few Totally Ignorant Ex-friends , the only place that I hear complains about Inter-racial Romance is here at AfroRomance . All these debates are Instigated by Ria’s Blog topics .
Comment by homesteader on 12 April 2009:
Or for those that cannot comprehend what I say ; Who really gives a Hoot ?
Comment by southernmoca on 13 April 2009:
This is a deep topic and I believe that all have valid points. We (as a society) must listen to all views and take them seriously before any progress can be made. I have dated white for quite some time (25 yrs) and recently i have been blessed to meet a man who is multiracial and I must admit, he and I do not receive the “evil eye” as when I dated white. (sighs) Maybe one day, just one day people will stop questioning the wrapping that true love comes in and just appreciate the gift inside.
Comment by caramel beauty on 8 May 2009:
Hello everyone,
I know,I don’t think that God has put different nationalities here on this earth for a reason. I hjave no problem with mix races. My favorite kind of mixture is (Black woman and White man). This is what I like to see,and it’s something I like doing.
I think caucasion men are afraid to approach a black woman because of rejection.I guarantee ypou I can get a lot of white men for bopy friends if I persued it. I think asian women are their second choice. They won’t admit it. I wonder why? Oh well, I’m not one to allow the society to run my life. I allow God’s word to run my life. I know that interracial dating is not a sin,so I’m going to do it.Simply because aI want to. There’s a lot of divorcees out there and it’s not because they married someone out of their race.
Comment by caramel beauty on 8 May 2009:
I particually adore caucasian men!
Comment by NiCK@NiTE on 20 May 2009:
Hi. i just was curious and when i came across this website. but i have a problem pertaining to the topic. I am a black girl,20 yrs of age, and i am interested in caucasian males, i have no problem with that, but i keep finding the same kind of guys that think black girls arent pretty, im just wondering if most caucasian guys think that?
Comment by milla01 on 28 May 2009:
I definitely agree with you kaheesha. It’s only in America that we have these kind of problems.
I think it all goes back to history. The history of blacks and whites in this country has been bitter, even after slavery things never changed, sadly even to this day and age where many non-white people has advanced within society and have gained political power, we still get ignorant feelings to interracial relationships to blacks and whites.
It’s so funny how this whole post is just one big comic show.
In this day and age black/white relationships should be looked at the same way as any other interracial relationship;people just shouldn’t have to worry or think anything of it.
It’s only in America you find these problems. I think people in this country should see the world more and they will realize that other cultures don’t behave, act or think like them.
Black/white relationships is Europe is as natural as waking up everyday,there are no stares. Where I grew up in the West Indies everyone is mixed and it’s perfectly fine.
This is just an obstacle that this country should get over, because the rest of the world don’t think this way about interracial relationships.
Comment by CanadianGC on 31 May 2009:
wow!! hot topic, always good to jear other people’s opions and views.
Kaheesha and milla01 are correct, the black/white dating is only an issue in the USA.
Not sure what fascinates people more in the USA, black/white or older/younger…
Comment by fkoi on 7 June 2009:
There does seem to be more of a hysteric element to Black/White interracial relationships in the United States. And there is a saying “where it’s hysteric, it’s historic”. No other “racial” group has been as systematically terrorized in the US as those with African roots, with the obvious exception of those who were here when Europeans first arrived.
It makes sense. How can you enslave a person who is married to your son or daughter? And that same principle continued through our history through Civil Rights to today. I believe some of it has to do with trying to justify the past in some way, but it definitely is a hot issue (witness this blog).
It also makes sense because Blacks have historically (and may still be) the second largest ethnic group in the US (though Latinos are second by a couple of percentage points, that number includes Latinos of any race). As the Latino population of the US increase (projected to be about 30% in 40 years), so will the awareness of “mixed” couplings which include Latinos. Or so it would seem.
Asians are a mere 4% of the population, so it is natural that less attention would be paid there. Even though around 45% of Asians women report co-habitating with a White mate, that is still a small percentage of the total population.
I’m guessing that Black/White cohabitation comes in at a much higher figure overall but I couldn’t find the stats readily and frankly stopped caring.
From my own observations on history I will say that the behavior of (largely male) warriors is atrocious in almost all regards. I mean the goal has always been to kill as many of your foe as possible and the treatment of non-combatants, i.e., women has almost always included exploitation at best and brutal rape and mutilation at the worst. And the aftermath always includes children conceived by women at the hands of the enemy.
From my own experience I can say that most White men do not think of Asian women as sexual play things. Most White men don’t think of Asian women hardly at all. They think mainly of White women and that’s why the percentage of non-interracial marriages continues to be so high.
I can’t remember ever having a man of any race confide to me that he thought of Asian women in an exploitive way (although I have heard sexist and sexy remarks about women of all races at one time and another). I know it happens but I have to believe that if most White men think that way, I would have heard it spouted publicly a lot more often.
And if the majority of “happy-ending” masseuses were Lithuanian, Aborigine, Irish or Martian, there would still be a steady flow of achy men patronizing their parlors.
Comment by trinichic35 on 20 July 2009:
man….. its heated
Comment by smartiepants on 1 August 2009:
Haha, my thoughts exactly bighoss. While I can appreciate a beautiful man of any color, I am a black American woman who is particuarly attracted to white men. Nothing more, nothing less.
It’s really interesting. I have been in a steady relationship for 6 years now, and I can honestly say we don’t even realize our “differences”. We are with each other because we are attracted to one another, we get along with each other, we want to be with each other, and we love each other. period.
I honestly believe the people who make such a big deal about interracial relationship - those who like to psychoanalyze, pick a probe them - are those who are not in one. I have been living in Europe for the past 4 years now, and am only “aware” of my boyfriend and my skin color when I come back home to the States. And it’s times like these when I am glad that I made the move.
Comment by Shotgun007 on 3 August 2009:
I realize that this discussion is old and outdated from months ago.
For-Mr.Elliot- You brought out a lot of valid points in your post. Unfortunately we live in a world that doesn’t exactly like to hear the “negative” sides of a particular argument. Unlike some of the comments on this blog, I do not view your comments as racist in any way.I took the time to read every part of your posts and drew an overral conclusion.
In fact, let me share a small discussion I had with 2 of my Asian friends in college. One of which I still keep in touch with and has openly admitted that Asian women either marrying/courting white men carries a symbol of “status.” How I can agree that times are changing and evolving, this was… ONCE true.
Black and White are hypnotic simply because everyone keeps making it an issue in THESE United States.
Shotgun007
Comment by ronjjr97ywho on 2 September 2009:
black and white is hypnotic!! I personally love black women wont be in a relationship with a white woman they just dont do it for me.. mixed children are the best and you cant get any better than that.. I personally want a black woman that wants to only have mixed children..
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Comment by Linda2009 on 2 November 2009:
wow…where was i when all this was going on…these are some deep revealing things that each one of us is bringing to the table.Bt i for one love caucasian men i have never dated a black man they just don’t do it for me…some call this racist or am a sell out,…infact i had one african american woman call me a black gorilla , that i should go back to the cage i came frm , my crime dating a caucasian man, having lots of caucasian women as friends….now this is plainn ignorant.Bt i did cry and felt sorry for her and her children then i called the cops and charged her with verbal abuse just coz i could…..people esp. african americans just need to grow up!!!!