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Racism - Black on black

Posted by Ria, 15 Mar

Can a person be a racist against his own race? Am sure we have all heard remarks such as “I cannot date within my race because ……᾿ Well people may not agree on some norms and values within their race but killing for it?

There is this dude Jonathan Fajardo a member of a Latino gang from Harbor Gateway that has a history of attacking blacks. He is accused of gunning down a 14-year-old girl he did not know just because she was black and, a month later, of helping to kill a possible witness, who was stabbed 80 times.

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The irony about this is that he is partially black. His mother is Mexican and his father is a Creole whose parents are from Belize. He has three half-sisters and a half-brother who are as dark as his victim, Cheryl Green. His sister was engaged to a black man with whom Fajardo was in good terms with… his cousin is dating a black friend of Green's family – the family of the victim.

"He knows he has black blood," said his mother, Luz Andrade, who like other relatives cannot recall Fajardo making racist remarks. "He's had black people around him all his life." But just because he joined a gang that has been attacking blacks for over a decade, he is also doing it.

Its one thing to disagree with some aspects within your own race… but killing? Since his cousin is dating a black friend from his victim’s family, question is, did he and the gang commit the crime in a bit to ruin that relationship? Help me understand this guy people.

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  1.   over60dating says:
    Posted: 23 Apr 10

    It is someone view point. Racism comes in different heinous forms and this is one such example.

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  2.   Kris says:
    Posted: 12 Apr 10

    ezrhino2001 - Are you the only one who didn't read the article you're commenting on? While you're right that the person in this article shouldn't claim only Black as his race, the article is CLEARLY saying the opposite is what is occurring. This guy is both Latino AND Black. I'm personally all for him identifying with both. But, this guy is choosing to embrace his Latino heritage, but rejecting his Black heritage to the point of killing other Blacks. It's hypocritical. So, yes, he is possibly exhibiting self-racism, or self-hatred rather, because he's partially BLACK and rejecting it. As for being Black, as is the case with other races, there are MANY great things about being Black, as there are with other races. People who are very ignorant about us, or too lazy or cowardly to realize how diverse we are and what we have contributed to the world, don't immediately realize, understand, and respect that fact. Sometimes, I have to check and make sure this is an interracial board, because of the idiotic, prejudice comments some allegedly open to interracial dating make about other racial groups. Just because a group does not fall within your "fetish" radar, doesn't make them less. Oh, and I blame the school system (history books) for people, especially in America, being so utterly ignorant about the VERY significant contributions minorities have made to America.

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  3.   Wonka says:
    Posted: 22 Feb 10

    Okay how about catching this peace of crap and putting him in jail,instead talking about it.It's obvious that he has issues and I tell you what if I knew what he looked like and I saw him in the streets,I'd call the authorities in a hot minute.I bet you if he ran into me one on one(even if he had a knife,blade)I can guarantee you I'd beat the hell out of him,how because of what I know and just the mere fact of what he has done to hurt people would give me that much more of a reason to knock this dudes block off,I'M TELLING YOU!!!.He's a coward and he'll get his,God don't like UGLY!!.

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  4.   HyderabadChick says:
    Posted: 11 Aug 09

    Not all black mixed people ID as black - Many choose their other half, whatever race it is. However, a biracial or multi-racial person might say they are black when they have experienced rejection from the other races and greater acceptance from black friends and relatives! That's what's so 'great' in that person's experience. check out blindiannetwork.com. Several afro-indian posters say they experience friction with both groups but many say they ID as black because that's how they're seen. That's how they are best accepted. Why must they self-ID in the way YOU choose??? To this very day - I meet people in India who think Americans are crazy who ask "How come people question that Obama is black? What else would he be??" Perhaps you, Sir or Ma'am, have not met those who continue - even in this day and age - to anxiously reserve the title "white" or "hispanic", latino, arab etc...only for those with no black blood! But I meet and read from them every day. I can only imagine what it would be like to grow up, mixed, among such people. So sorry some of these kids' response to the social pressure offends YOU.

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  5.   ezrhino2001 says:
    Posted: 11 Aug 09

    Why would a person who is biracial or multi racial only say they are black or even allow someone to define them as just one race and not claim their other heritages as well , to be biracial or mixed is in itself and say you are just black is self racism , is there suppose to be something so great about being black as opposed to being other races or other mixtures , if so please educate what this so great thing is ????

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  6.   FearlessCrusader says:
    Posted: 22 Jun 09

    Black blood????? I thought we all had red blood. How deep does racism run, anyway? The American Red Cross quit classifying blood by racial types over 60 years ago, when they determined that there is absolutely no difference in the blood of different races.

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  7.   ed says:
    Posted: 21 Jun 09

    Last time I checked creole is a mixture of to races French/African or black so how kind a person of the mixture say their not black?

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  8.   danger204 says:
    Posted: 12 Apr 09

    THIS GUY CRAZY HES MY HOMEBOY AND I SEND HIM MONEY ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

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  9.   LilRod says:
    Posted: 23 Mar 09

    Yeah I believe that it's pretty much a self hate issue with some people of color because in the past I have ran into the dark vs light skin issue.I also remember the time I got turned down by this Chinese dude who said to me: "I'm sorry but I don't like Black people." followed by "But I don't even like other Chinese." I was shocked because he was quick to state that he wanted a Twink White partner.Wow I know right that's really sad and you know that did hurt a brotha proud just a little bit but oh well his damn lost.lol "NEXT"

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  10.   Frangipani says:
    Posted: 29 Dec 08

    Being from a Central American country where people are as mixed as a marble cake, it was not unusual to see discrimination within races. Every culture does it. India has a caste system which is still practiced to this day. Wealth and position are also factors. But hating the half of you believed to be inferior is not not unusual. A friend of mine has a biracial daughter who said to him, "if not for you I would be White." During the three years I lived in Japan, I came to understand that whiter skin was prized, because it distinguished those of the former ruling class. People from Korea and China were looked down on, even though for a non-Asian, it was difficult to tell the difference. Central America has a history of discrimination against those who are darker, especially the women. Brown skin and curly hair is a legacy of those whose ancestors survived the Middle Passage and arrived on these shores. My background and culture is Creole, Latin, African, and American. I am treated differently by some White people who do not consider me that same as an African American person. I am still of African descent, regardless of the detour. And yes, Black people, White people, Asian people, Brown people of all countries and races practice discrimination towards those outside and of their own races. It does still exist.

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  11.   ICE2008 says:
    Posted: 15 Aug 08

    The dude is clearly crazy....no matter what color he is or culture he was raised in. He deserves a bullet in the head, so he can be eliminated from the human race and we as honest citizens don't have to pay for his sorry azz in jail. But, I digress. I am a product of a Puerto Rican mother and German father. Raised by my mother, I lived my first 6 years of my life in southern FLA (Hollywood / Miami areas) and moved to NYC in the late '60's. I lived in Puerto Rico during most of the 1970's. I was called "gringo" and "americano" for a short time until I learned to speak Spanish and was accepted by my Boricua brothas y sistas. (No, I don't have the classic Latino features....I look like a regular White boy. Handsome one, I might add, too. LOL) I NEVER ONCE HEARD ABOUT RACISM WITHIN OUR CULTURE! My fellow Latinos cover the entire color spectrum. My best friend growing up looked like a beach boy....blonde hair and blue eyes, yet BOTH his parents are PoRicans. Color didn't become an issue until I moved back to the states (NC) in 1980. I was liking this dark skin sista from my college, and had the "audacity" to invite her over to my dad's restaurant. Talk about a rude awakening! The waitresses, who had liked me before, gave me dirty looks when I arrived there, and my dad pulled me over to the side to "educate" me. Also, my date, who got there before me, had already left, no doubt because of the treatment she had gotten. The point is that racism is rampant here in the USA, but don't believe it doesn't exists anywhere else. I haven't heard of any racism within a race in terms of color anywhere else (except in the Black community), but within a culture, it is prevalent in places around the world (mainly based on status, etc.) Sad to say, but it will always exists in some form or fashion on this Earth.

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  12.   firsttime says:
    Posted: 14 Aug 08

    This happens all the time and not just with black people i live in the uk and i know so many white people who would never date a french man or polish person etc some might say whats the big deal you both white but no they dont see it like that people will always have there preference when it comes to dating its never going to change

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  13.   Max says:
    Posted: 03 Apr 07

    In all parts of Africa except the North, its always one race of people. So the problem is not racism but tribalism. I didnt know about racism until I arrived at the US. Once here, I found out that there are reverse racism against Africans. There are people both white and Black that wouldnt talk to you simply because you are African and not African American. Racism persists in our society, sadly, and it is perpetuated by people who tend to see the difference in us instead of the similarities.

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  14.   mossimo says:
    Posted: 25 Mar 07

    Perhaps this guy merely thinks of himself as Latino. This might transcend racial barriers and go more into a cultural issue.

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  15.   Lisa says:
    Posted: 20 Mar 07

    ..crazy, usually defy a sane explaination.. but, very sad for both families..

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  16.   Bree says:
    Posted: 19 Mar 07

    I guess that persists around the globe, I thought that was just here. I date my own race as well as outside my race. Some blacks in the US are still "color struck". This began during slavery times when biracial and light children, who were still slaves got preference, ie. inside work, intead of field work. Even today on televison lighter black tend to dominate roles more. On the dating seen many black men prefer lighter women. I am a little surprised becasue I have dated and been around men from Africa and the Carribean, they dotn usually have hangups on skin tone as African American men do. Yes some women do, but usually not.

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  17.   fala says:
    Posted: 19 Mar 07

    Maybe it's a cultural thing. I met a woman on this site from Belize who's darker than I am but will not admit to being black. She says she's creole and she holds black people who descended from slaves in absolute disdain. I don't know how she thinks the black in her blood got to this part of the world - but there's no telling her otherwise. Maybe that's what their kids in Belize. Sure, their skin is brown, but no, they're not black - like that's a bad thing or something. Who knows?

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  18.   kryss says:
    Posted: 16 Mar 07

    It's true about what u said there Ebony that that man clearly doesnt understand himself . And about that first statement on the first paragraph on this article, i dont think anyone is being called racist against his race if he choose to date other race.For me personally, Im a filipino but I prefer to date white men because for me they are quite attractive. But it doesnt mean I hate blacks or my co-filipino or asian. It's a choice.

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  19.   Ebonie says:
    Posted: 16 Mar 07

    There is no understanding that man. Becuase clearly, he doesnt even understand himself.

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  20.   Chauney says:
    Posted: 15 Mar 07

    Sad to say but this is out here!

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