Black men, marrying black, marrying white
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“Barack Obama is one of the few men that we have seen who is a black man who has a very, very dark-skinned wife. She’s very dark skinned for normally what you see. And I wondered to myself, would he be electable if he had a white wife?” – Whoopi Goldberg confessed to having been woken up by this ‘strange thought’
There is this stereotype that once Black men become successful, they marry interracially as a sign that they have made it. Picture this: an influential, charming, attractive Black man with a Black woman in his arms. Now imagine the same man with a White woman in his arms. Does this change your perception of him? How and why?
In the video, Dr. France Twine wonders why it is perceived that a lot of Black men are marrying White women while in reality, the percentage of black man/white woman interracial relationships is totally on the lower side … unless the norm still is that they shouldn’t marry any? What do you think?
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Cocosan says:Posted: 22 Feb 09
I must admit I am somewhat invigorated by the lastest postings! I do not apologize for any of my statements made during any of my posts - I have no reason to. I believe in what I say and I stand behind it. I do believe that perhaps the addition or deletion of certain words in key places may (or may not) have caused some readers to interpret my statements in a manner inconsistent with the intended meaning. As I stated before, there is nothing wrong with intelligent dialogue and spirited debate. If someone is unclear about another's statements, simply as that person for clarification. Validation trumps assumption any day. Stating something as fact does not make it a fact. (In my opinion) we all would benefit by entering into dialogue realizing that opinions will be verbalized as such and facts will be clearly identified with supporting data (ie stats). I will never be able to speak for all black women. I have no reason to disrespect anyone - male or female. I do take offense to people stating something as fact when it is really their interpretation of a statement. However, I also realize that if that person has a need to do so, there is nothing I can do about it and the FACT remains that my authentic statement is still just that - mine. I spend many of my formative years living in Europe and am still amazed at the difference in culture between the US and Europe. I remember listening to people energetically verbalizing their opinions, disagreeing with each other and laughing the entire time! That is spirited debate and intelligent dialogue - in my opinion. At the end of the day or at the end of reading one another's comments, we will still be who we are but richer for having heard what someone else had to say. I believe all dialogue enriches or enlightens me in some way - regardless of who says it or what is said. I hope that at some point, we can freely and respectfully express our individual opinions. Until then I respectfully suggest that some people might want to try a different site...just my opinion!
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Glock says:Posted: 22 Feb 09I could poll the entire website, that still does not represent the entire black female population. As you know there are many variables to stats. However many posts that are on this particular thread disagreeing with me, I have received just as many private emails from black women that say they agree with me. So much for polls. As far as "stealing" the show, that certainly wasn't my intention. I am just one man speaking his opinion that upset some people here. I will never be intimidated not to speak my mind however controversial it may be.
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Esmayali says:Posted: 22 Feb 09:) No my love. It's never good to assume anything. If you read the blogs you can discern for yourself how many "black females" Cocosan represents. If you like, you can do a poll and question the posters one by one and use this data for your statistic. This was a good topic, it got people talking so it served it's purpose well. However, Glock you almost stole the show.
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Glock says:Posted: 22 Feb 09
Actually the question was for Lala2qz. But am I to assume you are the spokeswoman for the black female majority? Since you stated: "Point is, Cocosan obviously does not speak for the majority of black women." Or was that your opinion versus an actual statistic?
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homesteader says:Posted: 21 Feb 09
I remember it was all in the number of ducks . Alas positive thoughts are what makes Date Ting fun , Negative thoughts are just another way to say " No " . The sun shines Brightest on a Happy day . Let us place some numbers on topics ; Who wants to disagree _ _ _ Who wants to Agree _ _ _ and who does not give a Hoot _ _ _ . I for my Vote really do not give a Hoot , so now we got 0 - 0 _ 1
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Esmayali says:Posted: 21 Feb 09
As a matter of fact, I did post a response to Cocosan. However, for some unknown reason it was filtered and was not posted or maybe my response would have started a blaze. Since, we are back on the topic: on February 17, Cocosan wrote a comment addressing talnwhite & Glock, stating: “don’t think for a minute that Nenalinda speaks for all (or even many) black women! Remember-that is HER personal opinion. Today I say to Cocosan: speak for yourself. I personally did not like some of the comments posted by talnwhite and Glock I found them offensive. I also find that Cocosan is bias and jumps to conclusion. She was annoyed by Nenalinda’s comments to the point that she made statements questioning Nenalinda’s womanhood. It seemed that she did not appreciate Nenalinda’s comments towards Glock and talnwhite. Point is, Cocosan obviously does not speak for the majority of black women. She did not speak for them on February 17 and certainty she is not speaking for them now. She speaks for herself as a bias Black woman. Furthermore, I would have appreciated if she had use actual statistic and not her opinions when she stated that “blacks frequently jump to conclusions” and “engage in mob mentality” As oppose to white, Chinese, Indian??? So, to answer you question. Yes I did respond. However, it was not posted.
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Glock says:Posted: 21 Feb 09
Lala2qz, was that a complete coherent thought? I notice that no one has said anything to Cocosan? Noboady has based her or attacked her in anyway. To quote Cocasan, "blacks frequently jump to conclusions and engage in the mob mentality to prove a point." Would that qualify as a "stereotype"? Hmmm... Now if I had said that would it be wrong for me to assume I would be tarred and feathered for it? Is it because she is black that she can make that claim and not be attacked? Please explain the obvious double standard... Ah, yes NOPLAYER, I stand behind what I say.
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 20 Feb 09
Good morning homesteader, I always enjoy reading ur comments...Very positive....not to take away from anyone....Ladies ur comments are GREAT aw well.... HAPPY FRIDAY TO ALL!!!!!!!
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NOPLAYER says:Posted: 20 Feb 09lala2qz You are correct it's not about the color of the skin but it has everything to do with the THINKING of the person. What's in the heart comes out of the mouth or in this case the key board. " It is what it is "
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lala2qz_ says:Posted: 20 Feb 09
I LOVE your comment AFgirl, it addressed everything so adequately your points are well taken. I agree with Layla. I'm gonna mention that I think it's horrid that certain people want to lump all white people in the same category(cough cough *GLOCK* cough cough). When your skin is just that, your skin. The stereotyping that he is doing is wrong. We're all one people and to say "us white guys" and other certain things in his ramblings just goes to show how high his level of thinking is. If he's really into the thinking that every disagreement he receives is about the black people keeping the "white man's" opinion down; I find that extremely saddening.
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NOPLAYER says:Posted: 20 Feb 09
homesteader I agree the First Lady is attractive, graceful, smart and she carries herself like a the true queen that she is. What more could a man want in a woman? I've still don't understand the fuss about her not being very light or white. He married the woman he felt would bring out the best in him and inspire him to greatness. I'd advise men to go after the woman that motivates him and makes him feel he can take on the world.
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homesteader says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Oh yes the President sure nuff got him a Pretty First Lady
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Good morning! Except the fact....We are not going to be to everyones liking.....I recd my share of No's and I sent my share of No's...I am a firm believer... There is someone for everyone...It might take a little more time for the Chemistry/connection...For some reason...it happens when we least expect it...In my being patience...it HAPPEN...P.S. Lady's be sure not to settle...make sure you do ur homework...get to know him inside out....and develop a solid friendship and go from there...
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hawkercat says:Posted: 19 Feb 09I want to fully agree with Foxybrwnskn and Layla32. And some one else I think who said the subject of color and it's influence and lack there of needs to be a 'nonissue'. The best way to accomplish that would be to not dwell on it and to focus on the person. The commentator who said the first lady was very very dark is an idiot. And I loved the comment by someone who said maybe the President is not attracted to white women. Ya know, ... different strokes for different folks. People are operating out of a programed mind by society and the many forms of media. White is not better. Now I apologize for commenting on color when I just said it should not be a focus. My vision for the future is a society where it is not mentioned or a concern. People have preferences in all things,like flavors of candy. The idea that we CAN all just get along is what attracted me to this site... Well, that and many men of color as that is my preference. I was married for 23 years to a great guy and felt so at home in black culture I don't want to be away from it.
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Cocosan says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Thank you MsYvette! I am happy you have found your Sweetheart! Send your leftover good fortune my way so I can smile like you! Take Care & Be Blessed!
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Cocosan says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
I believe this is far more significant than one man's comments. I see this as just another example as to why many blacks have difficulties interacting with other races. In my opinion, blacks frequently jump to conclusions and engage in the mob mentality to prove a point. The true concern (at least for me) is that everyone be able to engage in intelligent dialogue which frequently consists of spirited, often opposed debate. Instead of thinking of it as ruffled feathers, how about we consider it as what it is - dialogue! Everyone is entitled to their opinion whatever it is and that opinion is valid and should be respected. Defending one's right to hold an opposing opinion from what may (at the time) appear to be the popular opinion is one of the key benefits of citizenship in this country - freedom of speech. Hopefully we can get to the point at which we realize that different (whether it is skin color, religion, politics, or even an opinion) does NOT equate to wrong - it's just different!
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
It's all good my friend.....have nothing negative to say....This site has been good to me....Met my Sweetheart here and it's been nothing but Good times...lol
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Ladies, please rise above Glock comments....read them and then dimissed them....You should not let anyone ruffle ur feathers on this website...it's ALL good....
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Glock says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Cocosan you are correct. When I said "your neck of the woods" I was referring to where she lives, since I have no idea where she lives. However the only reason I got bashed for it was because we were having a disagreement, and I'm a white man. Whenever WE (white men) use generic terms such as "neck of the woods", "you people" blah blah blah, it is usually assumed to have "racist overtones". Whites get it all the time. The only reason I am explaining it to you is because you gave me the benefit of the doubt earlier today in your post. I wanted to tell you that that IS what I meant. Other wise I could care less what some of these people think here. As you also can see that I am the subject of the chat rooms today (at least judging from a post above) and apparently it was concluded that I assumed Losha is black (in what post did I say that) and that she is from the ghetto (again, where did I say that or even HINT at that?) I would ask a question myself and say to these people why would they ASSUME anything on my behalf? Is it because I am white that they assumed these things? As I have indicated above that whites get this treatment ALL the time. Usually whites cow down and get defensive, apologetic and try to make immediate amends to the one offended because they assume that they must have said or done something wrong because they are told they did something wrong. I am not one of these people. What's more, is that some people on this site think that I hold racist views, should check themselves because it is they who jump to conclusions because they hear something they don't like and assume it's got to be racism.
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Hats off to you AFGurl3.....points well taken....I can appreciated...Educated Women....Losha, I like what you had to say as well....
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AFGurl3 says:Posted: 19 Feb 09Glock: You have some very interesting and intriguing views. But you also have some very shallow and contradicting ones also. At the end of the day, biracial or no, Barack Obama is still a black man. The only biracial man that says he isn't black is Tiger Woods and he's dumb because he's darker than President Obama. #2, The reason police brutality on blacks is reported is because many times when it happens, it is indeed a white officer, and they get nothing but a slap on the wrist. Yet if a black officer does the same act, they are ready to suspend him from the force or put him on desk duty. Recall the white officer that pepper sprayed a 14 year old black female (caught on his dash camera) for being out past her curfew. Why did he do it? We don't know because he declined to be interviewed. Odd huh? Some (not all) white officers do pull over blacks and hispanics because they are just that. I do agree with you on the racism statement though. You most certainly do not have to be white to be racist. There are different levels of racism in EVERY race, whether you're black, white, puerto rican, mexican, indian, or asian. In my defense, I'm not bashing you however, I do believe you need to agree to disagree. Losha, AMEN. The soldiers that are overseas are getting shot at no matter what color they are. Overseas nobody cares all they see is an American soldier. And indeed it is astouding how racist some people truly are on this site. Truth of the matter is, they are close-minded individuals that may never learn. Then again some of the comments that they make are probably comments that they make when they sit around at home with their families. Shallow and sad, but true. This site is supposed to bring us all together. We ALL share common views. We ALL enjoy or would enjoy dating outside of our race. Endya: I remember that documentary, and it IS true. We ALL are of AFRICAN ANCESTRY no matter how some people think otherwise. Same with the question as to whether Jesus Christ was white or black. The same dumb people ask that question. If these people read their Bibles and paid attention is history class, they would know that he was neither. He was of Hebrew descent.
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AFGurl3 says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
Furthermore, blacks are no longer considered a minority. And in response to her being a "dark skin" woman, she is not. She's darker than he is but what does it matter? They apparently are a happy family, so we should be happy for them, and worry about our own relationships. Who we date is our preference. True love knows know boundaries. That includes, race, location, financial situation, and etc.
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AFGurl3 says:Posted: 19 Feb 09
I wish people get over discussion President Obama's race. Obama is "light-skinned," however at the end of the day he is still a black man. Halle Berry is of mixed background but she IS still a black woman. My point is, both of these individuals are darker than my mother, and she is born of two black parents. However, my grandfather's family is of white/european background. Can the world get over looking at his race? As Martin Luther King Jr. said, "let him be judged not by the color of his skin, but the content of his character. Yes, he is married to a black woman. But she is very successful and very smart, and they have two beautiful children. The color of his skin shouldn't matter, as long as he leads this country in the correct manner. Any manner, is better than Bush. Truth of the matter is, we are ALL people. God created us all. We ALL have some african roots, no matter what color our skin is. Read your history books and your Bibles.
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Cocosan says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
Nenalinda, There is nothing wrong with satisfying your man's "things"! I am with you on that! I am just tired of people "assuming" the meaning of what someone else says. The statement(s) that Glock and others made that offended you - try not to read into them and there certainly is no reason to have a whole chat about what you think someone meant. I am black and I have had my neighborhood referred to as "my neck of the woods" many times and with the homes starting at over a quarter million dollars, I certainly would not expect someone to assume that I must live in a ghetto! If people continue to attach old feelings, etc. to blanket terms, we will never be able to get past some of those old feelings. Sure, there are people who are mean-spirited and evil and want to keep people at odds with each other. There is nothing we can do but pray for them. I cannot speak for Glock - he is the ONLY one who can accurately tell you what he meant! If what he previously stated as explanation remains unclear, simply ask him for clarification.
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Nenalinda says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
Also Cocosan: I am new to this discussion and I read ALL the comments. I feel that Hatsheput should be able to express an opinion with out the bashing and the little comments that can be perceive by new people like me as “offensive”. Some blacks who will jump to the defense of people that make comments like these, obviously enjoy - the “you all” and the “You people” comments. Maybe it turns them on (I don’t know) for me it’s offensive. Also could you please explain to me what Glock meant by referring to Losha’s neighborhood as “her neck of the woods” It’s safe to say that this topic was discussed in the chat room today and the majority agreed that Glock probably assumes that Losha is black, therefore, she lives in a ghetto. I found it offensive period. I applaud Losha for taking the time to explain the story about Mr. Henson. Very much appreciated. I have always wondered where the saying originated.
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Nenalinda says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
Cocosan: You are right. Real women don’t “punish” men period. I think that one can assume by the use of the word men / man; we are referring to an adult male and punishment is not necessary as he’s not a child. However, if he’s into that type of "thing" bring it on…lol I am all the woman that he will ever need :)
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Nenalinda says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
Cocosan: You are right. Real women don’t “punish” men period. I think that it's safe to assume by the use of the word men / man; we are referring to an adult male and punishment is not necessary as he’s not a child. However, if he’s into that type of thing bring it on…lol
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Cocosan says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
talnwhite & Glock, don't think for a minute that Nenalinda speaks for all (or even many) black women! Remember-that is HER personal opinion. There are many black women who are smart enough to discern who is on this site just to "hook-up" and who is not - whether he is black or white! Real women don't punish a man for another man's transgresions...
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Glock says:Posted: 18 Feb 09
Nenalinda, I guess you're making an assumption aren't you. Are you assuming that I am here to "hook up"? Is that you method of "getting even" so to speak? Accuse a white man of wanting to "hook up". Are you equally disgusted by the black men who come to this site to "hook up"? Or is it strickly a 'hate white men" thing with you? You just prove that you don't have to be white to be racist. Apparently you and several others on this site are open to white men, just the robotic ones. The ones who think and believe what you tell them to believe and think. Thank God you and I and several others here will never be a match. And believe me I would rather be single than to spend anytime with your ilk. You're pathetic.
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homesteader says:Posted: 17 Feb 09
When a man takes a hand to a women in anger . He becomes less than a man . He should remember that when he sleeps / this same woman can take an old axe handle to his knees . God said " Thou shalt not kill " , alas maim someone who hurts you , they will not do it again and walk away forever . No one should allow another to inflict physical pain without Restitution . Amen
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JUICYLU says:Posted: 17 Feb 09
Whoooa there Universal20! I'm from a certain Caribbean island and I have seen how badly the men behave that I wouldn't have anything to do with them. The women are strong, work hard, but they're let down by the men. They love home making, love to take care of their families,etc. Most of the men are unable to express themselves so beat up their wives, refuse to work or to strive for self-improvement - they end up in a rut and this leads to drugs. Yes, I know white men beat their women too, but they are so much caring towards the black woman than the black man is. That is why black women go for white men - not for the money. You need not worry because I will assume you have none for a black woman to "go after" These black men are not interested in going to the theatre, they do not read books, they do not take any interest in their children's upbringing, they do not go for walks in the countryside ..... the list goes on. Think about it and see if you or your friends match the description. I'm from the UK by the way - and the black men here are a totally different to the American men. BY THE WAY, YOUR COMMENT HAS LEAD TO A DEVIATION FROM THE SUBJECT MATTER.
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Nenalinda says:Posted: 17 Feb 09
talnwhite & glock: I hope that you folks are on this site looking for romance with white women. I am disgusted by all the white men that come on this site just looking to "hook up" with black women; Wondering what it would be like. When it's time to really find a partner they find one just like them.
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OkHereWeGo says:Posted: 17 Feb 09
Thanks MichaelIMN. I am with you on this. All the comments and sharing of thoughts are fantastic. But I too love all shades, flavors, sizes and shapes. It's about finding the right person. Ciao!
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Chosen519 says:Posted: 17 Feb 09
I wonder... Would he have been elected if his wife was of another race?? That's a good question.
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MichaelMN says:Posted: 16 Feb 09Dear Aspenrain, Thank you for sharing. And I love all 37 shades and flavors sizes and shapes. As long as she is the right woman for me that is all that matters. Peace out.
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Foxybrwnskin says:Posted: 16 Feb 09
My Goodness! I almost feel like I'm beating a dead horse here but based on other posts, maybe not so here goes. The First Lady is an elegant, articulate, classy, sophisticated, beautiful and graceful woman who has the all important job of being President Obama's back bone. As the saying goes " Behind every good man stands a great woman." Mrs. Obama has one of the most difficult jobs in the land ( only second to her husband's of course) and that job is supporting her man. The man has to clean up Bush's mess and that should be no easy task. I'm not one to talk about politics so I won't. I will in fact redirect myself towards the topic at hand.. Michelle Obama is not " very very dark" in any way, shape, or form. In fact, she is what is commonly known in the black culture as " brownskinned"....... Now, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate for just a second. I would presume that to someone who is not aware of the various skin tones w/ in our culture, they would automatically think Mrs. Obama is dark skinned. Think about it for just a second. In a world where Beyonce, Alicia Keys, & Halle Berry are reveered as the epitome of a black woman, why wouldn't he think Mrs. Obama is dark? Now, no longer being the devil's advocate and back to being myself I have some advice, and please hear me gentlemen because this is for you. I know that you have just recently been taught about the 36 or so different skin tones in our rainbow spectrum( ranging from the creamiest vanillas all the way to the silkiest, decadent mahoganys ) so you should be good to go on that. Look, for the majority of white men on this site, you are here to meet a beautiful black queen right? Well how can you meet her when you don't really know who she is? Learn about her, get to know who she is as well as her culture because it is equally offensive to automatically assume a very light skinned woman is mixed simply because she is light just as it is offensive to a brownskinned woman to tell her she is " very, very, dark." We are all here for the same reason and that is to find friendships and lasting love, but take it from me; get to know her on the inside but in this case, get to know her on the outside as well......... Good luck to all in your quest for love.......
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ASPENRAIN says:Posted: 16 Feb 09
FIRST OFF.......WHERE IN THE WORLD IS MICHELLE OBAMA VERY VERY DARK SKINNED ......U YOU CONDITION BOO ?. IN CASE U DIDN'T KNW THERE ARE 37 SHADES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.....THAT'S RIGHT ***37 SHADES**** CLEARLY UR COLOR BLIND.
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homesteader says:Posted: 15 Feb 09
Melis87 , you have hit the nail on the head - Talk to Ria / she is responseable for the topics presented here for discussion . But as I have heard / No news is Good news . It might take some work to find a topic with what you seek , Positive Change is forever moving forward at a faster pace . Happiness can and will be found here on this site. This We know for sure .
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Universal20 says:Posted: 15 Feb 09
Black women stop trying to use race for a crutch when u know that 80% of u are not for the black man anyway ,the only color u see money green,finances have taken over your morals . I sick of black women hating on black men because they marry outside of their race ,remember when that brotha was struggling u would'nt give him the time of day but that white sista did and thats why he married outside his race .Some sistas are the worst women the world for a black man because of your greed ,arrogance ,and lack of morals
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RobertIV says:Posted: 15 Feb 09First Happy Valentines Day to all! There are so many opinions that could be addressed, there are facts that appear to have been researched. I must say that it is a good thing to at least get people talking. At the end of the day Endya had the most accurate point and that is that we all come from the same source. As an African American male I must also admit that most of us are in an identity crisis as to what success looks like to us. We have used standards that don't belong to us for so long that most don't know what scale to use. I have this conversation about the values/appearance of success with other African American males 2-3 times per week. We are still a work in progress, and I am doing my best to invigorate and educate as many of the Brothers as I can. Right now I can only speak for myself...I have dated many different races of women and have found that I truly love Black Women the most and currently that is all that I date.
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Ms.Yvette says:Posted: 15 Feb 09
Everyone point was heard....Now, Can we PLEASE.....GIVE IT SOME REST!!!!!!...AND FOR THE FINAL....HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO ALL.....
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bigfine1966 says:Posted: 14 Feb 09after reading everyone response or most near the end i got tired of it all. But i really believe there are so many more things in this life to focus on than the color of the first lady and why or if our president would have been president if his wife was white. In the states on a person birth certificate the person is the the color of the mom but what does it matter. Our president decided to take on something that clearly would be hard for any man to do by himself therefore his sucess will only be as far as we are sucessful in what ever we do as a country. So my hat goes off to him and what he hopes to accomplish. Rome was built in a day so i dont expect everything to be right with America in a day.
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lala says:Posted: 14 Feb 09
Glock,sorry you just made your reading comprehenshion level look like that of a 3 year old. lol. I clearly said, wait a minute it'd be even better if I quote myself "because in case you’ve forgotten(rather I say forgotten to care) Obama refers to himself as a black man" Yes, see how you somehow skim over that? So, it's really sad that you're trying to put the world down for referring to him as to what he refers to himself. Anyway.... Are you mixed?? no, so dont think you having children that are makes it easier for you to understand. I wouldn't expect some of the black people to understand(though they seem to understand far more than you can), and I certainly don't expect you to. Let's say I were Dominican and Italian, I'd still be mixed but it'd be so much simpler for your little old mind to understand. Okay, so I would be accepted as a Dominican and as a Italian. If I were to do something exemplary and the first to do so, I would be noted as the first Dominican to do it AND the first Italian. It's just that simple. Why? Because I'd be accepted as both. My being mixed with Italian doesnt negate the fact that I'm Dominican. And see, you say you're not putting down any side, but look at you saying he's not black. Now, firstly, everyone embraces that he is mixed. But something in your head wants to only say he is biracial. You make yourself look silly. Because as I mentioned earlier, that means from to different ethnicities, and ummmmm..... can you please tell me what those two are??? Black and White right? this isn't paint where if you take black and white and mix it together, you get grey. Sorry, we're human. So you are what you are mixed with, simply put.
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Layla32 says:Posted: 14 Feb 09I find this topics to be more divisive than anything. Everyone is arguing who is black or white, I find the Nigerian woman's comments particulary amusing. Can someone tell me what black or white definitively means? Everyone is arguing over a concept that was created by white supremacy to divide people. What makes a person "black"? Is it color of skin, ancestry, texture of hair, having ancestors in Africa? What is it? And before you answer, I can bet a million dollars that you will get more than fifteen different responses depending on who you ask. So, there are many people who would look at a Nigerian person, darker than most people in the US as absolutely crazy for inferring that she is not "black"? So you are from Africa, darker than most "African-Americans", but you are not black? Sorry, but I was married to a "mixed" Nigerian man and I could spend countless days and nights talking about the divisiveness, and racial issues with Nigerians. I won't though, I will be nice. But there is no alpha and omega on this subject. And what is white? Anyone that has ever studied history in this country will tell you that white has changed dramatically over the years. At one time Irish weren't considered white, at another Italians weren't considered "white" and let's not forget it was THIS COUNTRY that deemed that anyone that had black blood was considere black. So why is it that all of sudden people are downing people from living in a system and addressing each other the way this country FORCED US TO DO. It's silly. Do you know that if you have a black parent and a white parent, you can describe your child as black & white, or just black/African-American but you NOT ever describe your child as "white" only. Remember now, this was done after the biracial movement forced the country to re-evaluate the whole doctrine of race, but it is not mandatory. I wish truly wish that on a site where people are coming together to date regardless of color, there wouldn't be so many combative blogs regarding the obsession of race. We should stop focusing on it, and learn to see each other as individuals.
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MichaelMN says:Posted: 14 Feb 09
Ladies and Gentlemen, Why this has become a political forum is understandable. However, I sense we are losing the point of this blog. When we realize that we are all more similar than disimilar we will then - and only then - move forward. Diversity is not extolling our differences. It is understanding that we may have differences. Act 3, Scene 1 Merchant of Venice. If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. We are all more alike than different. Color or no color. It is not WHAT we are - black, white, Christian, Jew, Democrat, Republican...it is WHO WE ARE. When we can judge each other by the content of our character not the color of our skin.. MLK, Jr. one of my heroes...ONLY THEN WIL WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. And I still love the appearance of a woman of color...and still want to know who she is more than what she is. Michael
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Glock... I love how you stand by your point! And everyone else on this site that is hating on him...please learn to read. He did NOT write anything racist whatsoever. Apparently, your reading and taking in what YOU want and not what is actually written. Seriously, some of the women sound more racist than anything Glock has said..STOP IT!! We can agree to disagree and move on. I enjoy a good debate but wow, some of you just take it too far! Glock...Smiles!!