Does the black community feel alienated by Woods' preference for white women?
Apparently the mixed race golfer’s preference for white women has ignited discussions within the black community in the US. It has been alleged that his latest sex scandal has sparked off debate among Black Americans on interracial dating. Much as this has been ignored in the media coverage of his infidelities, his marriage to a white model and the fact that the other three… four… six women (the number keeps growing ;-) ) he is allegedly having affairs with are also white, hasn’t escaped African Americans.
In this age and era, when you see such headlines about criticism against interracial dating, it’s a bit unimaginable. Sometimes I even wonder where people get these stories because the people I bump into don’t care who one dates.
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Anywho, on the Tom Joyner radio show for instance, a satirical song was played saying: “The question everyone in America wants to ask you is, how many white women does one brother want?"
Much as Woods once described himself as "Cablinasian" (Caucasian, black, Indian and Asian) – in a bid to show his blend of ethnicities – most Americans hail him as the black sports star. The issue isn’t even about his infidelities; but that in addition to his blonde Swedish wife, his mistresses are white. All this is a reflection of black’s resistance to interracial relationships.
But is this representative of the sum total of Black American? REALLY?
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tina3219 says:Posted: 08 Jul 10
I never liked Tiger. I was through with him when he denied he was Black. "one drop rule" I have to give it to him he sure can golf. However, I do not understand this question. Why would the Black community feel anything because Tiger is screwing around on his wife with women(any race of women) who look and are trashy. He was picking up "anything" aged 47 to 22. (those are the ones that spoke up how many more were there) And really who cares? He has a character flaw: Cheating.
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theladybarb says:Posted: 06 Jul 10
I've heard that interracial black/white relationships are hypnotic and that may very well be the case for many. My grandmother was very very fair;in fact one could tell she was very much mixed and she LOVED very dark men. She used to say.. "the blacker the berry the sweeter the juice." However, for me, the allure for interracial dating is simple. I love the way that I'm treated. Perhaps it's cultural... white men as a whole seem to be taught to treat their women and families with much respect, love, and attention weithout seemingly worrying about being macho or hard. Those that are truly attracted to Black women are very very kind and attentive. It's like having gone to heaven. You just can't believe that you're being treated so well. Once I experienced a whiff of the aroma of wonderful treatment, I was hooked.
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theladybarb says:Posted: 06 Jul 10
These questions are so ridiculous. I mean where do they come from? Are people just making up stuff for making up stuff sake? Why on earth would the Black Community feel alienated by Tiger Wood's preference for white women? This one totally escapes me.
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SAMMY_D_LUV says:Posted: 11 May 10
Ok my 2 cents here lol Basically anything negative is big news for anyone in the lime light, it sells and takes people away from their own problems for a min and they have someone to talk about and bash lol Tiger like many have stated just got caught, again like so many celebs do be cause they are constantly being monitored by the public eg the press. He dosen't say he's black possibly because there is raceism among blacks just as much as any other race. To the young lady that said she wasn't liked be cause she was mixed my ex grew up in Mobile Al and was 1/4 Cherokee/spanish/black/creole and was almost 5 yours older than me and was called the n word by whites and yellow by blacks so not excepted by either group-maybe Tiger had some of the same experiances who knows, all I know is I learned alot from her about raceism in general I was married to her for 13 years and none of our problems were race related. With her experience with prejudice from both races including working at one of Jesse Jackson's foundations in Chicago and meeting him in person whom she quit after meeting him(said he was a pompous egotistical self centered jerk)lol And the fact that she grew up in segregation in the south you woulld have thought that she would have nothing to do with a white man lol but in her own words she is mixed and proud of her Native American heritage considering that the Native Americans endured more hatred then any race in this country yet excepted anyother race to mix with them and helped many blacks to excape slavery and took them into the tribe as one of their own. Maybe I got A little off thrack of the discussion topic here but the point is we are attracted to whoever, we all have our preferences, so his liking of blond white is just that --His preference just as mine is to darker eyes dark hair and a darker complexion. He is just a man who got caught up with the fame the money and the groupies that ALL rich and famous men and women deal with--When your rich and famous you are constantly bombarded by temptation, you pretty much have the choice of anyone and anything you want just waiting to be with you, None of it has to do with race but their own personnel atractions-- opposites atract. So cut him some slack he didn't do anything many men and women haven't done. A dog is a Dog a hoe is a hoe lol Whatever race, religion or nationality they are. My 2 cents :)
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homesteader says:Posted: 11 May 10
Heinz 57 - wood be the proper term for a mixture of flavors . Great on medium rare steak . An excellient Golfer , whose Private life remains his own Business . How many of you have Only one person that you have made Love to ? My advice is to Challenge him to a Round of Golf before you Judge his lifestyle . People make Rumors of other people / These are the ones who Illegally entered my home , stole from me , while I drove a Disabled neighbor for his hospital appointments . And them low-life were White / go figger .
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sistagirl731 says:Posted: 10 May 10
While I admired Tiger Woods accomplishment on the golf course no matter what he calls himself ethnically. I am disgusted by his behavior off the course. For me, I'm glad he didn't marry an AA woman or cheat with any. The former would have perpetuated stereotypes. I'd rather see a white women disgraced and humiliated by her famous athelete husband than a AA one. We have been on the receiving end of that betrayal too often. Just goes to show that some men can't keep it in their pants no matter what they have at home.
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BrownGirlLDN says:Posted: 21 Apr 10
Gent01: You started so well with your comment. Then you completely made yourself sound like a bit of an idiot. You state that Tiger Woods is mixed with lots of things. I believe his racial make up to be something like Caucasian, Black, (American) Indian, and Asian. This would mean Tiger Woods is a mixed race man. Not a "black" man. When you stated that "Tiger Wood chooses to marry outside his own race, and this is predictable. His wife is of caucasian race, a very attractive beautiful blonde scandanivian white woman. " which of the 4 races that he is made up of are you referring to? Because, I was pretty sure he had some white in him along with a whole bunch of other things... If you wanted to make a point about black men choosing to marry white women, perhaps an alternative thread would have been more appropriate rather that this one. I also disagree with your reasons why people get married. I think initially, the vast majority of people get married for LOVE. Good luck in your search for... whatever it is you're looking for.
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Gent01 says:Posted: 21 Apr 10
Tiger Wood definitely cannot save his marriage although he publicly appologize to his wife and his fans for his adultry affairs with other women. Tiger's wife is comtemplating for divorse, even Tiger do not have affairs outside their marriage anyway. She gets millions of dollars for her divorse settlement and the real estates. She's a gold digger like any other white trash out there. Tiger's perference for white women is obvious and undenialable. His alleged affairs are all involved with white sexy women, non of the women involved is black race. Tiger chose to marry outside his black race. Obviously, Tiger Wood follows his father's footsteps. Tiger's father is married outside his black race to an Asian woman from Thailand. Tiger Wood's mother is half Chinese and half Thai herself. Tiger Wood is no black, although people think he is of the black race. Tiger Wood chooses to marry outside his own race, and this is predictable. His wife is of caucasian race, a very attractive beautiful blonde scandanivian white woman. In general, blacks like to marry someone other than their own race, especially the rich and famous blacks, for example, celebrities such as Micheal Jackson, his brother Jamaine Jackson, Sammy Davis Jr., Sidney Poitier, O. J. Simpson...etc. The rich and famous blacks like to marry outside their own black race to raise their social status. White women, on the other hand, like to marry blacks for their money, but not to raise their interbred children. Mixed race children are physically and genetically better than the race of their parents. This is also obvious true. Isn't Tiger Wood better looking than his father? That's a real fact, judge for yourself.
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maxhb says:Posted: 31 Mar 10
One of the first things that I notice when I got married was that most men are serial "cheaters" amd that I was not. Tiger is in the midst of a profession where almost 100% of is peers are not fidelitous in their relationships. They have women following and stalking them everywhere they go. They dont know these guys just their images and they are willing to drop their draws for a chance at some of that money, some of that notoriety. Men do react to that and it isnt love...its biological and not immoral. Furthermore, at that level race is not necessarily a criterion. Tiger doesnt consider himself a black man but rather as a man, Tiger fell victim to his clean image making. But those of us who are in the know of pro sports know and didnt doubt that Tiger was any different. You shouldnt read any more into it than that.
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dolly48 says:Posted: 29 Mar 10
Dear HyderabadChick i wish that indian man would have said that to me. I would have set him straight. (not saying you didnt) In fact, I have dated an Indian man, and know of two married couples (both black women/indian men). Maybe this indiam man was saying he was interested in YOU. For this to be an interracial site, it seems we are all wrapped up in color, when we should be wrapped up in loving each other (are you listening, Ria?) This site is about romance, not color. to everyone: Find a person on the site whom you want to date and see what happens. maybe love will bloom, and you can count your blessings. While dialogue is good, it seems that some of us get wrapped up in other things and we go off point. Love to everybody, even Tiger. Peace.
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HyderabadChick says:Posted: 29 Mar 10
Feeling 'offended' and feeling 'alienated' are two completely different things. While I was in South India, an Indian male once asserted to me "Black men don't marry black women." I was surprised because he didn't ask - he sounded certain. I don't and never have believed that any black man owes it to me (nor the black diaspora) to date black women. I'm compelled to respect that right, since when it's my turn - I'm demanding the same. However, that's no reason for me to ignore the number of black male /not black female pairings: I'm bracing for that backlash a-la-Mr. Indian male.
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lovely2see says:Posted: 29 Mar 10
To be honest, it just really shouldn't matter. Chemistry is chemistry and it cannot be forced. Interracial dating has been around for a very long time and is not going anywhere. To become offended by someone else's preference is a waste of time because we cannot control how someone else feels when it comes to romance.
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maxhb says:Posted: 22 Mar 10
I dont find it shocking that Tiger seems to prefer white women. In the pro-sports life, women and groupies are always present. Wherever one goes they are everpresent. From that group, white women comprise the majority of them and he no doubt chose from that population. The Williams sisters, especially Venus seems to prefer white men. I've read nothing of this anywhere. Maybe its the Tennis and pro crowd she is around. It means nothing to me, wish I was one of her entourage. White women I know resent me because of my preference for exotic types in women. I am not closed to white women, and would love to find any woman who completes me and vice versa. In interracial relationships there is a lot of cultural differences and new areas to explore together in getting to know each other. Getting back to Tiger, he seems no different than Jim Brown, Charles Barkeley and many other Black pro athletes. In fact Jimmy is probably one of the most hated athletes because of his preference for white women.
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firsttime1 says:Posted: 28 Feb 10
I really do not think many black women are shocked by tiger cheating with white women... come on now this is tiger woods he already distanced himself to the black he has in him Goes to show what happens when people marry for superficial reasons and pre conceived ideas about what the other race is going to be Had tiger married for love instead of superficial reasons i highly doubt we would be hearing about him and his many cheap blondes some which are ''escorts'' i mean really why would any black woman would be upset that he didnt choose one of their own to have a meaningless affair with is beyond me! Aim higher people!
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Member says:Posted: 26 Feb 10
Am I offended by Tiger dating white women? No. Am I offended by Tiger sticking his d*** in anything with blond hair that will spread its legs? Yes. Woods is nothing but a freakish bastard baby maker and I'm glad that I travelled back in time to tell my dad what a prick he really is. Tiger, you are a prick!
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homesteader says:Posted: 18 Feb 10
P.S. : NOPLAYER " Change " a New Past Issues written here - relate to this site's community / a site to Promote , advance and move forward . Which was designed to allow People of different Heritages to meet , mingle and marry if they so Desire . Not with capital letters attempting to retain Stagnation of thoughts . Division of Our People / You , a self proclaimed Black male directing information to Black Females on how to catch a White male . Still amazes me as your photo is a Brown color / Black ????? What do you know about my Heritage and thoughts other than what you read about in Our success meeting with each other ? I did Marry the Whole Woman and she the Whole of me . I sure nuff know you have no idea of my travels through life or that of any other White male for that matter . Leaving me to believe your advice about anothers Heritage / being second hand is B.S. or MANURE if you so choose the long form . If you gather your information from those you work with / My advice would be to encourage them to join and Search for themselves .
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Wonka says:Posted: 18 Feb 10
Hey look at Sammy Sosa,this dude literally changed his skin-color,fake green eyes(contacs)there were excuses made for him,but,we all know the truth.He's got a complex(and don't take this personal if your hispanic,specifically Dominican)but most of them are that way,they want to deny their roots.Last but not least I don't care who you are or what you are when you try to change your appearence(esp:skin-color)the man upstairs(GOD)always has a way of bringing one back to reality.In addition,the MAN(everyone knows who I mean when I say that)will not hesitate to put you(a person of color and/or minority background)in their place,they will not hesitate to let you know where you REALLY stand in the "so-called" pecking order of the world,and you know what,it'll usually be in the most suttle,kindest of ways.However it's up to one to be able to read between the lines,such as-Yours Truly!!!.
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Wonka says:Posted: 18 Feb 10
Look,First of all I'm bi-racial myself(Trinidadian and Irish)my mother's Trinidadian,my father's Irish. Of course,I see myself as Trinidadian/Afro-carribean American,now all this bickering about tiger woods and his preference for "white girls" I could give two flying f!#&$ and a fat man,who he dates.I don't care about golf,I don't care about tiger,his wife,or his children.I think he's got a complex as far as his race is concerned,I feel that he doesn't except being what he is,A BLACK MAN!!!!!!!!!.O.K.,that's the bottomline he's black.All this talk about "oh I'm this and that,you know half asian,two percent german,some indian,a little jewish,a touch of french I like pasta and pizza so I guess I have italian in me,oh my great,great,great,great,great,great,great, great,great,great grandfather is mexican,oh and by the way I just found out my great,great,great grand- mother is transylvanian so I have a smudge of that in my blood as well" Hey tiger your BLACK!!!!!!!. Plus like another writer wrote before,white woman basically do anything for fame,money,notoriety,you know the usual "15 Minutes of Fame".Black woman(key word)WOMAN tend to carry themselves with ALOT more Class,Respect,Dignity(in ones self),and the proper attitude in such as their not going to let a man walk all over them,and treat them like crap.
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homesteader says:Posted: 17 Feb 10
Tiger ; Enjoy what you do / It is Your life . I don't know you , yet you play a Good Game . Fantasy of a Perfect World is My Life / Liberal in thought " Broad-minded , Tolerant ; esp. not bound by authoritarianism , orthodoxy , or traditional forms . " A Lover of Human rights . Our people are All people / NOPLAYER ; Sorry I don't feel any Separation in Culture as I feel all are equal - to Enjoy the different Heritages as brought forth bye " my father " in childhood learning / Development of my thought patterns . Yes ! my wife is a Naturalized United States Citizen as am I . We do not belong to a Gang or Click . We live as Husband and Wife enjoying what we do and see change in some with Intelligence / Ignorance will always be Bliss in others . Cannot change the weather have learned to Enjoy it also . Extra layers of clothing in Colder times . Yes the past taught me Hard work an everyday thing in order to Enjoy what I personal Earned . Found that I did knot want it All / because of lack of space to put it . I learned many years ago that to attempt to change a Group was fruitless. Individuals is what this World is made of .
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Member says:Posted: 17 Feb 10
The black man-white female combo has been the biggest taboo since forever. Pretty blonds are the Apple Pies of Beauty held on a pedestal; black men consistently rank at the bottom of the "food chain" (according to some). To many, black men are seen as not worthy of the almighty blond beauty. It's definitely a hard question to answer: Just because you prefer a certain type--and he or she is not of your race--are you selling out? Is Tiger Woods selling out, even though he's part white? I do agree we tend to be preoccupied with race. BUT race sometimes dictate who we choose to date. Is that a definition of being preoccupied, too? Gets confusing at times.
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Tina says:Posted: 16 Feb 10
if Tiger prefers to sleep with all that trash coming out of the woods, that's his own business! I applaud his wife for her dignity, her beauty and the way she has handled the whole sordid business- she is one hell of a classy lady! Left to me, I would have left him, regardless of his skin color- the lack of respect Tiger has shown is wife is so appalling
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brownclown says:Posted: 05 Feb 10
Vanilla Chai, I agree that our society is very pre-occupied with race. It's sad that we have to endure so much pressure to love someone of a different hue.
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vanillachai says:Posted: 25 Jan 10
I am so tired of everyone's preoccupation with which "race" I (we) date. When they find out I have a preference for black men, they always ask "why" and try to say a bunch of negative things. They also make stereotypical jokes. (This is mostly from "white" people. Women who are too afraid to do soemthing different and men who are intimidated by the potential threat/competition.) Nobody ever says to a man, "Why do you like big boobs"? (or) "Why do you like long legs"? (or blonds etc.) So why does everyone think it's okay to ask why regarding a preference for anything else? We all have our own tastes. In addition to liking my "chocolate"...LOL...I also love Thai food and the color red...nobody ever questions why I love Thai food or the color red! I have mixed emotions on the whole Tiger situation. None of them have to do with race. From an entertainment stand point, judge not. Most people do not have the temptation and opportunity that he has had in his face. Thus they can not say what they would have done in the same situation. From a personal stand point, there are so many women that are into what he's into. He should have been honest with his wife and kept it movin' if he needed something different. So, to me, it's all about honesty. It use to make me happy to see a successful man with a happy family in the public eye. Now, I feel a sense of disappointment when I see Tiger. He was a symbol that you can have it all. Now he's a symbol that it can all fall. I believe this is why we all feel let down. We wanted to be part of the dream. In a world full of negativity, we have all been pulled into his nightmare.
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pearlofgreatprice says:Posted: 24 Jan 10
The truth about the matter is in my community, no one thinks about Tiger Woods or anyone else that's in the limelight, to tell the truth, until they make the news. There may be a brief 'barber shop' or 'beauty shop' or even while doing yard work, discussion for a minute or two, then it's over. We really don't know him personally, and don't really care to 'carry on or discuss' anything about him inside our homes. It's a moot point.
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NOPLAYER says:Posted: 14 Jan 10
@ Homesteader - First of all I was adressing an issue related to the AF/AM community and it was a comment directed at BW, so why the backlash from you? You refer to my comments as prejudicial, I beg to differ! I bring it as I see it, just as you and everyone else on this blog, regardless if we all agree or not! As to my using the term "Our People", why does that seem to offend you? I think you have a problem with BLK people having a strong sense of indentity, even though you're maried to a BW. I don't think I'm the one with the issue, I think it's you my friend. The fact that you feel people shouldn't indentify with their own ethnic group puzzles me. In this new age of so called muti-culturalism, please explaoin to me how do you expect people to embrace, respect and admire the culture of OTHER PEOPLE before they first develope a healthy respect for THEIR OWN cultue. If I don't love, respect and admire ME, how in the hell can I or anybody else love, respect and admire someone else? Please explain this to me! You can't even have a healthy IR relationship if both people or not rooted in themselves and have a healthy love of themselves. That's comsense / Psychology 101. I'm well aware and understand that people are unique and special in their own way, I don't need you to tell me that. I came to this site because I was told of the interesting dialog that takes place on the blog, not for the purpose of looking hooking up with someone. You asked if I joined this site to talk Of "History long past"? Man please, dont go there! When it comes to humans there's no such thing as "THE PAST!" Whatever we are as people in the present is shaped by our past, the way we talk, the way we relate to other, the way we love and the way we view reality is based on our past, someone of us are in bad shape because we fail to properly interpret that past. Man you can't even have a grip on reality if you don't have an understanding of past history. What does this has to do with love and IR relationships? Everything! We can't make it on romantic love and physical attraction alone, you have to relate to a person whose views, beliefs and attitudes are shaped by a past and a history and you have to accept and respect the the total sum of that person and not just the parts the make you feel comfortable. You don't pick off the parts of them that you don't like, don't understand or agree with. You have to accept the "TOTAL PERSON". I see and I know that too many people in IR relationships that compromise parts of themselves and play this game of going alone to get along and that's not true love that's being phoney and living in a fantasy. As I've said, I'm just pointing out things that I see in the IR community and I try to get to the heart of the matter, do I piss some people off, I'm sure I do but if I can get one person to seriously thinking about something I've stated then all was not in vain. If we're all here to gain an understanding of eachother then we have to be willing to try to understand where others are coming from even if it's outside of our comfort zone. Homesteader dont worry, my children get a healthy does of reality everyday and they'll be able to see things for what they are when they're older and they'll have a strong root in themselves in relation to both of their heritages, now run and tell that!
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deeann says:Posted: 10 Jan 10
Blackcowboy said, "And,Athena and Eyes For Ebony,the fact you broads should realize is that,while classically handsome black lads such as Woods(and truthfully,Yours Truly)are in demand as studs by all kinds of women,most black women are NOT seen as desirable partners." Eyes for Ebony is a man. Woods classically handsome? I do not know of any other culture of men who would seriously want to be considered a stud. You make AA men appear to be simple minded. So you say most bw are not considered desirable? You are aware that includes your Mother, sisters and every woman in your family? Who are you speaking of? Your ignorant self and tiger dumb woods? I believe most AA women are too supportive of most AA men and there is little reciprocity given in return.
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BrownGirlLDN says:Posted: 09 Jan 10
I'm confused. If Tiger Woods identifies himself as the sum of his parts i.e. mixed race, why does anyone feel the need to say differently? If he was half black and half something else, then I could maybe see the logic in referring to him as black. However, black is a 4th, one quarter of his genetic make up. I watched the Oprah back in the day when he told the world what he was (racially speaking) and I feel like that should be it. Now onto his sexual preference for dating/shagging white ladies. So what? That's his preference. Perhaps this is another of those America/Britain divides that I simply can't get my head around. Realistically, any relationship a mixed race person has it always going to be interracial to some extent. Come on people! The real story is the fact that he a dirty cheater! Booo Hisss, keep it in your pants (or your wife!)
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ladylady says:Posted: 08 Jan 10
THE DAY WE CAN ALL!! SHED SKIN AND GET TO THE REAL THINGS IN THIS LIFE!! THEN WE ALL CAN ENJOY THIS LIFE IN A BETTER WAY!!!
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MsMartinet says:Posted: 07 Jan 10
I had to say this: My desire while on this site is to find a gentlemen other than black. Identity problem? Does that mean I dont love my race? Am I turning my back on my race? All answers are NO! Let me share with you this(if you are black and dont agree you are just being a hater) Black people got problems beyond any understanding beyond any textbook teaching and how WE survive the most horrible circumstances, bounce back and keep living to tell the tell is to be commended!!! Hair weaves and all that--look say what you say but know this it is a nine billion dollar and growing boomin business so enough said for that. Lip pumping and tanning--"trying to be black" all that stereotyped nonsense--has anyone ever thought-they are just trying to be what they think is beautiful....I have heard black is beautiful--been told that all my life. Also, been told there is nothing like a real woman and Hoe cant hold a candle to a Lady. Again I am black and if their was a pill to make my butt mo junk in the trunk official I would keep a prescription. Im black and have been to a tanning salon to get darker I am black and do NOT have relaxer and keep a raw-ass multicolored weave--point??? It is about how YOU want to look. What YOU choose to surround YOURSELF with. Those who got nothing but negative just hate themselves and know it so they have to make themselves feel better. Tiger is just being himself and we see what that got him-BUT--NEVER DID HE SAY HE WAS PERFECT! The world just jumped on his jock and made him more important than their own selves. Cant have news without someone to watch it---ratings!!! Meaning those who tune in SO DEEP to other peoples lives are lacking and interested. THIS IS NOT A COLOR THING-ITS A SAD THING--Especially when it is so much to do in life and we all are on borrowed time. Where is it written that you must wake everyday--PRIORITIES--Get them together and adjust yourself accordingly >>>>As 4 Myself its simple: Hell yea Im on this site to find a gentlemen OTHER than black--come do something--(I wont lie their are some SUPER FINE black men on here)--it it what it is--I AM STEPPIN OUT THE BOX!!! I AM TRYIN SOMETHING DIFFERENT & NEW AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO LET GO OF THE PAST NOR AM I AFRAID TO SEEK HAPPINESS IN WHATEVER FORM IT CAN/WILL COME IN MY FUTURE--REMEMBER ME- MsLadyMartinet(ALYRICALPROSTITUTE) --"To have something you've never had, you must do something you've never done."-- (4 those w/color issues a white woman told me that) oh and check out this motivational video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTxr7OsPj0 Happy New Year People!!! I wish you all love, clarity and blessings-------two fingaz baby(peace)
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homesteader says:Posted: 07 Jan 10
P.S. Everything is Beautiful in its own Way and if you allow your children to read the newspaper frequently at Lest here in the United States of America / There are many pictures of the President and his Beautiful family been shown . Teach your children to Read and they will become Successful in their own time / Keep pushing Antiquated History upon them if you Please . This is an ever changing world / some must learn to go with the Changes . Turn off the tube , Enjoy .
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homesteader says:Posted: 07 Jan 10
I TOLD A FALSEHOOD ; when before I wrote " this is my last comment on this blog topic " Seems everyone reads Tabloids about Mr. Woods , how many of you have only Enjoyed - One Sexual Partner in your whole lives ? Is not that how God - intended ? Melliot - telling women of his Heritage how to catch men of my Heritage ( my question is what does he know of how we think ? ) use ing History lessons of a time hopefully long past . Misunderstood ? Rediculious more the word that should be used . Having Married a Ladie , I met on this site / I feel that I have experienced life at its' Fullest and have Learned alot more than these Critics with constant Color coding show in an open Forum / you can knot bullshit a Bullshiter . Especially one who has Gained Knowledge of that which he speaks through - Actual Participation in the act of Love found at this site in Our everyday Lives together . I still wonder how you can judge another you never met / played golf against or Smiled and said " Howdy Mr. Woods , you played a Good game today . " Does anyone ever judge the Good points in anothers life ? Or believe everything they read in print / how many of you actually have seen him in bed with his Private Life style or him and his wife ? Voyeurs and opinionated people you are . As it once was said " Let he [ or she , my own added comment ] / who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone " NOPLAYER ; You continue to talk about Racial differences at an Inter-racial Date Ting site - Duh ! / People who come here online have seen all your Open Prejudicial Comments for years now / they are Seeking Change of Attitude . And you came here already Married / what where you seeking upon joining ? We all know who we are / people with Desire to find another person to be Happy with . The question is " What's Love got to do with it ? " Lighten up this site was Made for Success in Relationships / Not statements such as " damaging the self-esteem of our people " . This enlightens me alas confuses also " our people " . The World is Full of " our people " and they are called Individual Human Beings . Each different in their own way - Male / Female of Many Many Heritages , cultures and walks of Life . Didn't you state that you became married prior to joining this site ? Seems you joined to talk of History long past if you Please / My wife and I do knot even remember anything but Love in Our relationship . We came here seeking companionship and found it / Go tell it on the Mountain . I been to Listen to the local Preacher and his statement personally to me was " We need your money in Our collection Plate to pay our electric bill" . This happened - then he read about David and Goliath , I thought then if he was to Broaden his education and get a job / that he could pay his own electric bill . I pay mine without asking others for Help . Do knot Trust Media , Politicians , Used car SALEMEN and Preachers because their vocabulary are limited / as Beggars of the common Trust of All people who remain " Our People " as an Inter-racial Couple who meet many New Friends in Public everyday . Knock that chip you carry off your shoulder / life changes with each and every Individuals Outlook . What comes around / Goes around and how you act will Determine how others act toward you .
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yram says:Posted: 06 Jan 10
@sweetpea back @yram: I do agree wholeheartedly that there are some of the back community who do not have the confidence and contrary to my verbiage in my original prose, I was NOT raised by confident parent(s), nor was I surrounded by what I have learned later in life (belief in, and value of me and respect for others). Everything in this life is learned, so I volunteer my time and mentor pre-teens in this area -- some accept it and others reject. Learning to love ourselves is our responsibility and we attract and accept those attributes that we project. The debate that Tiger Woods and his lack of regard for his family, has sparked is just wasted effort, in my view. No matter what each of us has internal confidences that reflect externally. We have choices -- develop what we have, build our confidence level and rise above stereotyping! Have a great 2010! Here's another opportunity to make a difference in our own lives and the lives of the struggling young woman and men without "role" models!
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BlackCowboy says:Posted: 06 Jan 10
Athena,what do you mean that Woods' parents instilled no "racial identity and pride" in him?First,Earl Woods,Tiger's father,was one of the first African-American Big Eight base-ball players,under-going an awful racial ordeal of segregated accomodations and bigoted attitudes from team-mates,opponents,coaches,fans,etc.,which I'm certail he passed on to Tiger. Secondly,because his wife,Kutilda,is a Korean,and they lived in a fairly integrated setting,Mr. and Mrs. Woods instilled in Tiger an understanding of diverse groups of people which transcends whatever "race" Young Eldrick would be viewed,which is basically that focus on race is self-de- feating and would lead Tiger nowhere. Thirdlyas a handsome young man of colour in a sport of unprepossessing white men,Woods would of course be the subject of much attention by the "rope-hopers," i.e.,golf groupies,who,of course,would almost invariably be white. Add that Woods was NOT raised in a predominately black inner city,with its "gangsta" pathologies,and is a Stanford alum (Stanford is an elite academic institution)and you've got a man FAR TOO INTELLIGENT and self-assured to require affirmation by the race-hustling,Jesse Jackson-Al Sharpton crowd. And,Athena and Eyes For Ebony,the fact you broads should re- alize is that,while classically handsome black lads such as Woods(and truthfully,Yours Truly)are in demand as studs by all kinds of women,most black women are NOT seen as desirable partners.
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Athena says:Posted: 06 Jan 10
@OldSchool56 I think you might have misunderstood me. I didn't say that Tiger's parents are responsible for his cheating. I meant that from my observation and my understanding of his biography, his parents did not instill any racial identity and pride into him, and therefore his confusion. I remember a scene in the film, where he was really shocked and confused that people were regarding him as "black." He listened to white music, read only white literature and couldn't even dance! As for his sleeping around with different white women, I believe "EyesForEbony" hit the nail on the head! Nerdy golfer made good.....but no dating and social skills. I think Melliot tried to say it too, but was misunderstood.
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ladylady says:Posted: 06 Jan 10
FOR FAR TOO LONG ... WE HAVE BEEN STUCK IN THIS COLOR BASE THING!!!!FOR IF A CHICKEN IS BLACK,YELLOW WHITE!!!! HE OR SHE IS STILL A CHICKEN!!!! FOR IF A DOG IS BLACK,BROWN,WHITE!!!HE OR SHE IS STILL A DOG!!! AND THEE IS BUT.. ONE RACE!! AND THAT IS THE HUMAN RACE!!!!WE MUST ALL GET A GRIP!!! COME TOGETHER!!! WORK TOGETHER!! TOO MANY ARE ON THE STREET'S NOW!!! HOMELESS...JOBLESS...FOR AT THE END OF MY TIME I WANT TO LOOK BACK!!! AND KNOW I HAVE DONE MY BEST WITH IN THIS LIFE TO HELP ALL!! HOW ABOUT YOU???
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jinboo says:Posted: 06 Jan 10
Come on now, age old topic. You should be able to look at Tiger Woods from a distance and tells that he only dates, marries, and has affairs with nothing but White women. In my opinion he did nothing wrong, he just got caught. his wife had to 9 iron him for something other than cheating. She probably gave him 3somes as well.
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NOPLAYER says:Posted: 05 Jan 10
@ sweetpea68, I feel you on this one.... As BLK we've made the mistake of adopting other peoples standards of beauty as our own and this is proof of our self-alienation as a people. Unless parents begin to ingrain an appreciation of self love and cultural indentity into their children, the children wont have a means to resist this unslaught of media programing of their minds as to what's beautiful and what's not. Regardless if the media does this with the intention of damaging the self esteem of our people are not, just know that they have the ability to do so and we should arm our children with the means to resist this attack. Now I know some white person is saying, "Ebony and Essence do the same in their magazines", but keep in mind that those magazines are directed at BLK consumers in a store from a magazine rack in the check out line or the book section and not on TV. First you must root your children in themselves, you must begin in the home. How can your children see beauty in themselves if they see no pictures of the beautiful people in which they come from. You must ingrain an appreciation for the beauty of those who look like you in your children? Growing up my mama and grandma had pictures all over the house of our family and extended family and they'd tell us stories about each of them. I grew up extremely proud of how I looked because I saw myself in many of the people who I'd heard so many stories about. I was firmly rooted in myself FIRST! Well isn't this reaching racism? Is this anti multi-culturalism? Hell no, it's common sense! How can we expect our babies to have a healthy love of self when we've allowed them to attach to and indentify with everything and everybody but themselves. This is why they walk around hurt, angry and confused when society or whatever they've tried to indentify with rejects them. It's like a woman who identifies with, believes in and gives herself to man only to find out he doesn't accept her and we all know that's painful! This is what our children go through because of our failure to root them in themselves, so they think in order to be beautiful they got to starve themselves down to 90 pounds, get blue contacts and dye their hair. I'll close on this, other people are going to validated their images of beauty and they're not wrong but it's not right that we fail to validate OUR own images of beauty amongst our selves. Allow me to tell you, "YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!"
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sweetpea68 says:Posted: 04 Jan 10
@yram, I respectfully disagree... You're right that no ONE man or woman is responsible for building a black woman's confidence but we're not just talking about one man, because really, who cares about Tiger Woods, except for his family and friends. What happened with Tiger Woods has sparked these conversations and now we're talking about what we see and hear in the media, in magazines, in the workplace, in the grocery stores, etc. There's a perception, no, not a perception, a REALITY in the minds of the media gurus that black women are not naturally beautiful as brownclown stated in her post. It’s important to realize the power of the media because the media in all of its forums is filtered out to EVERYONE. And I think it's extremely crucial for people to rise up against that very notion that black women aren’t naturally beautiful or else we'll continue to see another generation of black women dramatically altering their appearances to obtain the ideal perception of beauty, which is becoming an unfortunate reality! Now of course, we have to find the beauty within us and project it outward but the unfortunate truths are some black women don't know their beauty because they've never been told it and they've never been shown it AND, they don’t know where to look for it. They don’t have that circle around them displaying it so they turn to the media and the magazines, etc. I think it’s significant if black men and women could recognize the outer beauty that each other have and speak it! Whether we marry/hookup or not, appreciating each other’s beauty speaks volumes in shaping how one feels about themselves and how others look at you. I can tell you have wonderful confidence and you probably display a strong sense of it in all aspects of your life. I would like to believe that other human beings between the time you were born and leading up to today had some positive influences in shaping that confidence and beauty within. Although it's not your responsibility, there are a lot of young black girls/women out there that could surely use your help in building their confidence level too. And then maybe they could unleash their inner beauty for all to behold.
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Abraxas247 says:Posted: 03 Jan 10
I have to say just because a black woman want to chage her appearance doesn't mean she wants to be white.....That doesn't make any sense what so ever. If you and others want to say that about black women, then you can say white women want to be black because she get tans, lip plumpers and now want to wear padded booty shorts to obtain a junky trunk. What's the big deal Ive seen white women wear hair pieces, weaves, but its ok it seems in "America Beauty" perspective...God forbid a sista want to get a relaxer and a weave...its the end of the world. My question to you and others that are so concern about the esthetics of black women's beauty is to realized what non black women do to make themselves appear more beautiful. What get me are people talking all that nonsense when they are just like and/or similar to Tiger, some are on this website. I know this is an interracial dating site but there are black women on here trying to look like anything but black (weave, wigs, etc). lol. There are also black women who feel the need to put in their profiles that they are not interested in black men. Why make this a point? I’ve noticed few black men to do this. My take is that a good number of black women on this site are no better than Tiger because they are just like him, insecure of being black or partially black.
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EyesForEbony says:Posted: 03 Jan 10
For the record, Tiger Woods' father was mixed race - black, Native American, and Caucasian, and his mother is Asian, so that's where he got "Cablanasian". While most people likely don't care whether he calls himself Cablanasian or not, I do think there are some black people who are very turned off by Tiger referring to himself as Cablanasian because they feel anyone who is even part black is going to be perceived as black by greater society (which is probably true, though there are many people, like myself, who see mixed race people as mixed race - because that's what they are) and therefore they feel Tiger is fooling himself and should "own up" to being black, whatever that means. Regarding Tiger's preference in women, I think at least one of the women he's been linked to is mixed race. I can't recall for sure, even though I spend hours and hours watching tabloid TV (just kidding)! My impression is that Tiger has a relatively immature conception of relationships and that he probably spent most of his teen years and early 20's on golf, and his conception of women seems more informed by spending a lot of time reading Playboy magazine instead of going on actual dates. Then, suddenly he was incredibly rich and could get whatever he wanted, but still didn't have time to work on learning what real relationships are about (too busy with golf and running his empire). So I think his alleged preference for white women stems more from him having a juvenile conception of relationships which was formed from spending a lot of time reading Playboy, Maxim, etc, instead of actually spending time on real dates and getting to know people deeply. Can the guy even go on a date right now? He can't really go anywhere in public.
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ladylady says:Posted: 03 Jan 10
SO SAD SO MANY ARE STUCK ON COLOR AND RACE!!!FOR HE IS A MAN!! AND SHE IS A WOMEN AND THIS IS ALL THAT COUNT'S IN MANY EYES!! AND ESP.!! GOD'S EYES...
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RAYNEDELAY says:Posted: 03 Jan 10
Thank you Athena, I had no clue as to the extent of the hatred toward Barbara Becker. I was a big fan of Boris Becker before he started dating Barbara and became an even bigger fan when he started dating her. The man has a right to his preference. I find it funny how all of Boris's women look like Barabra and Barbara's new husband is a carbon copy of Boris. LOL That's too bad the Germans feel that way, but it obviously didn't deter Boris because he continues to live his life the way he wants to. Which is the way it should be.
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dolly48 says:Posted: 03 Jan 10
Comment to Blackcowboy "denied his blackness????WHAT IS THIS CRAP" Damn Skippy! That fool denied his Blackness! Sorry not having it! ctually i thought about Tiger recently, and I think he MAY consider himself black, just dosent say so publicly. He's got those stupid sponsors thinking he is NOT black. and they paid him millions and billions of dollars! Suppose he had said, "I am the world's best black golfer". Would he have the cash he has now?.... He took everyone to the cleaners by "passing" As for my bra size, dont bet your last dollar, honey...
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Athena says:Posted: 02 Jan 10
@RAYNEDELAY When Boris Becker married black Barbara Becker in 1993, all hell broke loose in Germany. The public ostracized her, racially abused her, threw bananas at her, called her a prostitute, the media attacked her day in, day out...and it was only after years of observing her impeccable character, dignified silence, unwavering support of her husband's career (she never missed a tennis match) and devotion to their two sons, that they finally left her alone. When he impregnated black Russian model Angela Ermakova afer a brief liason in the broom cupboard of an exclusive London restaurant in 1999, the Germans turned against HER, even though Boris was still married and his wife was expecting their second baby. They claimed that she had used the RUSSIAN MAFIA to steal his sperm and thereby his fortune!! Boris claimed not to ever have met her, and it was only after a DNA test that the truth came out and he finally acknowledged the child as his daughter. He just got married 3 months ago to yet another Dutch black woman, Sharlely "Lilly" Kerssenberg who is pregnant with his child. Therefore, to answer your question, YES. Germans DO feel alienated by Boris' preference for black women.....and make no secret of it.
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lagbaja61 says:Posted: 01 Jan 10
Couldn't care less about anything regarding Woods or the boring sport he plays, or who he prefers. I find it really sad that he and his dumb fans still use a name which most people would have stopped using when they were able to walk unaided. I mean, a 35 year old man calling himself 'Tiger'. How embarrassing. Feel sorry for his wife (and kids)but they'll get a fair few quid as compo to cushion the blow. I'm more interested about debating the myth of the American Dream of Mom's Apple Pie and Family perpetuated by Hollywood but in real life often non-existent, and women's attraction to singularly ugly men like Woods based only on their wealth. I always thought there was a word for women who go with men primarily for money. Oh, as for the initial debating point of this article - it's too crass for anyone sensible to waste their time commenting upon.
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Afrodytee says:Posted: 01 Jan 10
He made his bed, he will have to lie in it. If he wasn't famous it wouldn't be in the news. He is not the first and won't be the last. It'a private matter..I just like watching him play golf.
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oldschool56 says:Posted: 01 Jan 10
@lena1986 LOL well he probably wished he had given a sister some of that money. But apparently nordic women are nothing to play with either..lolol. @ATHENA...Girrrrlll no you did not try to put Tigers parents into this mess..That man was grown when he made his decision to cheat on his wife..several times. That is just as silly as Melliot blaming the movie Boys in Da Hood..lolol Tiger made his own bed and he can lie in it. No need to care what color he is..he did what a lot selfish men and women do. He CHEATED!! had he not been a public icon no one would give a hoot..but because he is in the public eye, they want to bring all kinds of reasons why he did it...and want to lump a whole community in it...again...Tigers parents are not to blame for his cheating. My parents are/were both black and yet my preference is white. I dont blame them when/if I get cheated on or I cheat. Always want to blame instead of taking responsibility. That is not a color trait its a HUMAN trait and we all have it.
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MrnMrsGees says:Posted: 01 Jan 10
I think too many people are so preocupied with colour, colour, like age has nothing to do with love and relationships, how about just treating people as human beings without colour??? now that would be wonderful.
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Wow! Who cares who Tiger dates. The man is of mixed heritage. He is black/asian. I do not see anybody tripping because he is not dating an asian woman. Hello! Keep us sistas' out of it, d---! Again, I say, check your intel! Peace